Project R.O.F.L.C.O.P.T.E.R

[Chairman_Tiel]

This is where that reading skill your kindergarden teacher taught you would come in handy, if you'd just choose to utilize it and read the past page of the thread.

Keon explicitly specified that's not what this is about; hyper is the only one that hacks but there's not really much we can do to stop him until he gets banned. At least in the current state of affairs his tendency toward cheats is pretty useless.

Why so angry? I said 'griefing' as well.

It's a PVP server.

[CommanderKobialka]

okay im just gonna assume that nobody gives a crap bout my suggestion. it really is a great server... what a shame... well whats our faction called on this new server?

[Tunnelthunder]

okay im just gonna assume that nobody gives a crap bout my suggestion. it really is a great server... what a shame... well whats our faction called on this new server?

I gave a crap about your suggestion..... Also we are Ardites or something

[Chairman_Tiel]

Tunnel did you take a stack of diamonds?

[Dux_Tell31]

So which server are we on right now?

[ACH0225]

The one on page 2. I also feel we should establish a military cordon at posneg, an place death traps where you tp in. Then, we can farm n00bs for resources.

[Prototype]

Found alchemists base, have co-ords noted down

[ACH0225]

We also need a comprehensive defense policy, with plans, secondary plans, and tertiary plans for evacuation or defense of the base. This was one of the failings in our tekkit base, and many other faction events. We need to establish what is critical to bring, and where we would meet up to build a second base. We should also establish a site for a second base, meaning an claimed underground bunker with a fake base above. This site could be manned at all times in case of attack. We should try and extend the base so that it utilizes the entire 16x16 chunk, and we should try to extend it upwards. We can maximize space with ladders and 2 block high roofs, and then get 3 floors by slightly extending the top floor. Then we can have 2 storage levels and a farm, as well as space for a bed, crafting/cooking and possibly a self destruct lever or airlock to the outside with a small obsidian room that can be opened and closed with a diamond pick. We could also make the base armor double thick.

[hyperlite]

For the record, I have no hacks anymore.

[Chairman_Tiel]

We also need a comprehensive defense policy, with plans, secondary plans, and tertiary plans for evacuation or defense of the base. This was one of the failings in our tekkit base, and many other faction events. We need to establish what is critical to bring, and where we would meet up to build a second base. We should also establish a site for a second base, meaning an claimed underground bunker with a fake base above. This site could be manned at all times in case of attack. We should try and extend the base so that it utilizes the entire 16x16 chunk, and we should try to extend it upwards. We can maximize space with ladders and 2 block high roofs, and then get 3 floors by slightly extending the top floor. Then we can have 2 storage levels and a farm, as well as space for a bed, crafting/cooking and possibly a self destruct lever or airlock to the outside with a small obsidian room that can be opened and closed with a diamond pick. We could also make the base armor double thick.

You mine the obsidian required for that. We're currently using most of the 16x; this is because the other side is full of lava and a pain in the arse to expand through, especially for what amounts to only 4 blocks of extra space. We also don't need a wheat farm; that can safely be taken out and something else put in its place.

No self destruct lever, wholly unnecessary and only apt to be used against us. An airlock to the surface only increases our visibility to hackers. Since we're not supposed to be foraging or mining anywhere near the base the purpose of having an accessway would be reduced to simply allowing enemies to drop tnt down (remember that on this server 8+ tnt breaks obsidian, we require stealth and water to nullify the threat)

A third floor could be created but you have to realize that the entire top part is water; it'd take a lot of effort and no petty amount of obsidian to expand. I'm in favor of doing this at some point, though, but no further than three floors. We're not trying to create an overly elaborate base as previously, more a functional storage and resting place between our lashing out at the overworld. A third floor, however, would probably make the exp farm work (right now we're too far from the spawner for it to produce skeletons) and give us room for personal chests and hopefully a 1-tree tree farm.

A second base would be good, though hesitant to claim another chunk of land. Right now we only have 1 claimed and as a result no other faction can override our ownership of it, making our base virtually impenetrable.

[ACH0225]

When I said airlock, I meant into the cave system. It would be a 2 block tall, 1 block wide room that can be mined on one side to get in, then the other to get into the cave system, through which we could get to the surface or use it to safely attack enemies outside without letting them in. As for expanding into those 3 blocks, you already provided the answer; there is lava there. We can pour lava to make obby to expand. We also can get obsidian from nature, and I know plenty of lava pools at or near the surface at the warps. Obby isn't a problem to find. We should keep the wheat farm, but shrink it. We need the supplies to keep the base fed. What I think we should do instead is create a small room and farm chickens in there. Then, we can get xp from breeding them and killing them, along with meat and feathers and eggs for meat and arrows and cake.

[Prototype]

We can probably claim quite a lot of land, we have enough people, perhaps various safe houses dotted around the place, with all chests guarded by dirt doors, so nobody can get in.

Also do you want me to survey the defences of known enemy bases, for I can do that.

[Dux_Tell31]

Heres a nice jungle for wood.
x: 1040
z: -1360

[Tunnelthunder]

Alchemist base at 1942 z-907 small found it.

[Chairman_Tiel]

When I said airlock, I meant into the cave system. It would be a 2 block tall, 1 block wide room that can be mined on one side to get in, then the other to get into the cave system, through which we could get to the surface or use it to safely attack enemies outside without letting them in. As for expanding into those 3 blocks, you already provided the answer; there is lava there. We can pour lava to make obby to expand. We also can get obsidian from nature, and I know plenty of lava pools at or near the surface at the warps. Obby isn't a problem to find. We should keep the wheat farm, but shrink it. We need the supplies to keep the base fed. What I think we should do instead is create a small room and farm chickens in there. Then, we can get xp from breeding them and killing them, along with meat and feathers and eggs for meat and arrows and cake.

There's the thing -- we don't WANT to get to the surface, use warps if you want to do something. As for attacking enemies while not letting them in, mining obsidian is a tedious process that'd take close to a minute. When you get killed, you then have to do it again and again until we either run out of power or the invaders figure the system out and wait outside the airlock. In the event of an attack all we have to do is sit tight in the base until they run out of tnt and then move our stuff to a new location.

That would mean tearing down the entire wall and wading through a lava pool to get a trivial 3 blocks of space. If we can get enough people on at once, sure, but doing it with two or three people just makes for an arduous and annoying task that doesn't bring any vast benefits - our current base functions just fine. That's not to say it couldn't be improved, but we should save our man hours for jobs that bring about decisive benefits.

As for the farm, /kit food. If we do that at regular intervals we can stockpile the bread and never be at a loss for food. In this environment bread's the only thing wheat can be used for anyway, so better to just take that out and use it for something more useful ala part of what you plan to use the space from the changes proposed for.

We can probably claim quite a lot of land, we have enough people, perhaps various safe houses dotted around the place, with all chests guarded by dirt doors, so nobody can get in.

TNT. Again, while we can protect more land, it also leaves us open to having our claims being overridden by other factions.