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The back kind of reminds me of

Cannot unsee the butt-face now.

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I broke toolbox, again.

Probably couldn't handle the dakka

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That is seriously glorious dakka.

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That doesn't look even slightly reasonable. IMO four guns of that size on a mech that small just looks dumb--it's obvious that it couldn't possibly use them, for any number of reasons, starting with inability to balance the recoil and ending all the way down with inability to physically contain more than a bare handful of shells of that size. Perhaps two guns of that caliber, with far shorter barrels, and another much smaller gun between them? That might look less disproportionate.

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That doesn't look even slightly reasonable. IMO four guns of that size on a mech that small just looks dumb--it's obvious that it couldn't possibly use them, for any number of reasons, starting with inability to balance the recoil and ending all the way down with inability to physically contain more than a bare handful of shells of that size. Perhaps two guns of that caliber, with far shorter barrels, and another much smaller gun between them? That might look less disproportionate.

http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/d ... onster.htm




This should clear things up for you.

Not up to me to alter the design, but yes, it's a little ridiculous, partly why I like the thing. Seeing as the last... Well, every model I've made this year has what I would call, "serious" in design, (even the dropship is fairly standard), I think it's some for something just a little mad. And besides, the 40k stuff this is up against is objectively just as bonkers.


EDIT: wait... Hang on, length may actually be an issue here. Looks like my reference material is overcompensating slightly... Unfortunately I have absolutely nothing else to go off, the original appearances of the thing in the anime are horribly inconsistent.

EDIT2: seems all appearances of this thing are pretty inconsistent in terms of barrel length...

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I respect your dedication to your source material, but... while it's hard to get an accurate measurement from that gif, just for comparison the largest cannons ever mounted on any battleship had 46-centimeter muzzles and were 21 meters long. These were on the Yamato, itself the largest battleship ever fielded, and it only carried nine of them because they weighed a hundred and fifty tonnes apiece. Each shell was fully two meters long. It looks like the guns on that mech are perhaps twice as wide and probably a bit longer. That's stupid, not 'dakka'.

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Dakka is Ork-boy slang for firepower, stupidity is basically a requirement. That and Macross seems to pull the same "rule of cool" that 40k does (with the titans at least), just with some typical Japanese ridiculousness thrown in.

Though calibre is am issue on the model, I'm working from a single model I found on the skethup warehouse, and using some measurements from that page I linked to scale it.... And it doesn't really match up, you can tell from that picture that the calibre is a fair bit more than 40cm (sources say 40 and 50cm versions exist, but I believe only the 40cm is canon), so I think I'm going to disregard my reference and work from the numbers, though this could be difficult due to the way I've actually built the thing, if I have taper the barrels in I risk texture glitches, which I do not want, and will choose the less accurate configuration to avoid any texture issues.

Though I really need to see how it looks in game, which brings me onto a problem, in that I've managed to break the toolbox, for whatever reason it refuses to export, and instead decides to crash after politely asking me to save. I can't work out why, part count is abnormally high, but only a few parts more then the AS-90, which works fine. My suspicion was that this is because I am using a barrel part, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I've sent details to Manus, but until this is resolved I can't really continue. I would normally cut the model into two, to isolate the barrels, but that requires manually deleting ~1k parts, and will not work as a long term solution.

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Good news, Manus fixed the bug with the toolbox.

After putting the thing in game, I can confirm that my reference is completely * in this regard:



This seems to be greatly exaggerated in comparison to the drawings made by the creators:



In other words, while the rest of the thing is fine, the artillery cannons don't really stick with canon.

However, this brings me onto another problem, canon states the barrels have a calibre of 40cm, and after actually taking a measurement off the above reference image (using the average height of a Japanese male as my gauge), it looks more like they have a calibre of 1.15m, which actually fits in line with what I've put on the model (the calibre on the model is roughly 1.25m). In other words, all canonical figures about the thing are pretty pointless.

So, at this point it's pretty clear I can't really use written figures as reference, so I've taken measurements off some of the official artwork, and adjusted accordingly, changing the barrels from 22.25m long, to just 13m:


If you ask me this is somewhat more sensible (not that sense is anything I'd even remotely associate with Macross, but I digress), but is more accurate to the actual appearances of the Monster. Gun calibre is still way over 40cm, but it appears the official figures are a load of *.

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I'm just waiting for when you build an Emperor-class Titan. Or a Shadowsword tank.

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I'm just waiting for when you build an Emperor-class Titan. Or a Shadowsword tank.

Actually I think Manus already made the shadowsword, or one of the baneblade variants, though I have offered to build some of the other variants at some point.

Though I won't be the one to build the Emperor, that's Manus's job, though it would likely have a similar part count to this monster. However I may offer to build a Warlord at some point.


Also, Manus is working on adding energy shields to the mod. This is great news for the MIDAS.

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it got baby clown feet

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Reminds me of a toddler wearing his dad's shoes and holding a 16-inch cannon.

Or a puppy dressed as a tank.

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Is that... Jeremy Clarkson?

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it got baby clown feet

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Reminds me of a toddler wearing his dad's shoes and holding a 16-inch cannon.

Or a puppy dressed as a tank.

As ever, I expect nothing less of you.

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I just installed the pack (for the first time in a while) and the Peregrine is HUGE. The height is probably what I specified, but It's way different in-game from what I imagined. Not so much a fast-attack vehicle.

One thing the pack is lacking (other than an official server that has me with admin powers, * Ach) is an original, small mech. I think it'd be a nice pursuit after you finish the Monster. You might remember the Imp I proposed a while back.

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I've been after a small mech, problem is they are a complete nightmare to build without having steve clip through. I've made a couple of attempts, but everything always turn out being too bloody big.

I do remember your imp proposal, and while I wasn't so keen on it's curvy-ness (though now it may be possible to pull off... might be difficult doing it by eye but curves are a thing now), it's general layout is about the only way I can think of pulling a small mech off, relatively fat body and stubby legs.