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Re: Super-struct

Post by ACH0225 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:56 am

Iv121 wrote:Question is if the name is really what matters ? If you can't tell the diff between two things it means there is prob indeed no difference for you whether you take a or b.
You are Jewish, so this means you will likely seek out an asiatic person to reproduce with. This is the future for you, Iv.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:23 pm

Besides Asians are attractive.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by CommanderKobialka » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:14 pm

Guys. This freaking article makes me want to smash my computer on the pavement
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JROTC and the militarizing of America.

This article originally appeared at Tom Dispatch.

Congress surely meant to do the right thing when, in the fall of 2008, it passed the Child Soldiers Prevention Act (CSPA). The law was designed to protect kids worldwide from being forced to fight the wars of Big Men. From then on, any country that coerced children into becoming soldiers was supposed to lose all U.S. military aid.

It turned out, however, that Congress -- in its rare moment of concern for the next generation -- had it all wrong. In its greater wisdom, the White House found countries like Chad and Yemen so vital to the national interest of the United States that it preferred to overlook what happened to the children in their midst.

As required by CSPA, this year the State Department once again listed 10 countries that use child soldiers: Burma (Myanmar), the Central African Republic, Chad, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Rwanda, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. Seven of them were scheduled to receive millions of dollars in U.S. military aid as well as what’s called “U.S. Foreign Military Financing.” That’s a shell game aimed at supporting the Pentagon and American weapons makers by handing millions of taxpayer dollars over to such dodgy “allies,” who must then turn around and buy “services” from the Pentagon or “materiel” from the usual merchants of death. You know the crowd: Lockheed Martin, McDonnell Douglas, Northrop Grumman, and so on.

Here was a chance for Washington to teach a set of countries to cherish their young people, not lead them to the slaughter. But in October, as it has done every year since CSPA became law, the White House again granted whole or partial “waivers” to five countries on the State Department’s “do not aid” list: Chad, South Sudan, Yemen, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Somalia.

Too bad for the young -- and the future -- of those countries. But look at it this way: Why should Washington help the children of Sudan or Yemen escape war when it spares no expense right here at home to press our own impressionable, idealistic, ambitious American kids into military “service”?

It should be no secret that the United States has the biggest, most efficiently organized, most effective system for recruiting child soldiers in the world. With uncharacteristic modesty, however, the Pentagon doesn’t call it that. Its term is “youth development program.”

Pushed by multiple high-powered, highly paid public relations and advertising firms under contract to the Department of Defense, the program is a many splendored thing. Its major public face is the Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps or JROTC.

What makes this child-soldier recruiting program so striking is that the Pentagon carries it out in plain sight in hundreds and hundreds of private, military, and public high schools across the U.S.

Unlike the notorious West African warlords Foday Sankoh and Charles Taylor (both brought before international tribunals on charges of war crimes), the Pentagon doesn’t actually kidnap children and drag them bodily into battle. It seeks instead to make its young “cadets” what John Stuart Mill once termed “willing slaves,” so taken in by the master’s script that they accept their parts with a gusto that passes for personal choice. To that end, JROTC works on their not-yet-fully-developed minds, instilling what the program’s textbooks call “patriotism” and “leadership,” as well as a reflexive attention to authoritarian commands.

The scheme is much more sophisticated -- so much more "civilized" -- than any ever devised in Liberia or Sierra Leone, and it works. The result is the same, however: kids get swept into soldiering, a job they will not be free to leave, and in the course of which they may be forced to commit spirit-breaking atrocities. When they start to complain or crack under pressure, in the U.S. as in West Africa, out come the drugs.

The JROTC program, still spreading in high schools across the country, costs U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually. It has cost some unknown number of taxpayers their children.

The Acne and Braces Brigades

I first stumbled upon JROTC kids a few years ago at a Veterans Day parade in Boston. Before it got underway, I wandered among the uniformed groups taking their places along the Boston Common. There were some old geezers sporting the banners of their American Legion posts, a few high school bands, and some sharp young men in smart dress uniforms: greater Boston’s military recruiters.

Then there were the kids. The acne and braces brigades, 14- and 15-year-olds in military uniforms carrying rifles against their shoulders. Some of the girl groups sported snazzy white gloves.

Far too many such groups, with far too many underage children, stretched the length of Boston Common. They represented all branches of the military and many different local communities, though almost all of them were brown or black in hue: African Americans, Hispanics, the children of immigrants from Vietnam and other points South. Just last month in NEW YORK City, I watched similarly color-coded JROTC squads march up Fifth Avenue on Veterans’ Day. One thing JROTC is not is a rainbow coalition.

In Boston, I asked a 14-year-old boy why he had joined JROTC. He wore a junior Army uniform and toted a rifle nearly as big as himself. He said, “My dad, he left us, and my mom, she works two jobs, and when she gets home, well, she’s not big on structure. But they told us at school you gotta have a lot of structure if you want to get somewhere. So I guess you could say I joined up for that.”

A group of girls, all Army JROTC members, told me they took classes with the boys but had their own all-girl (all-black) drill team that competed against others as far away as New Jersey. They showed me their medals and invited me to their high school to see their trophies. They, too, were 14 or 15. They jumped up and down like the enthusiastic young teens they were as we talked. One said, “I never got no prizes before.”

Their excitement took me back. When I was their age, growing up in the Midwest, I rose before daybreak to march around a football field and practice close formation maneuvers in the dark before the school day began. Nothing would have kept me from that “structure,” that “drill,” that “team,” but I was in a marching band and the weapon I carried was a clarinet. JROTC has entrapped that eternal youthful yearning to be part of something bigger and more important than one’s own pitiful, neglected, acne-spattered self. JROTC captures youthful idealism and ambition, twists it, trains it, arms it, and sets it on the path to war.



Read more: http://www.utne.com/politics/americas-c ... z3HJMxJ0dV
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Vinyl » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:16 pm

Too long; didn't read.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by CommanderKobialka » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:18 pm

Vinyl wrote:Too long; didn't read.
basically says I'm becoming a brainwashed slave and child soldier.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by ACH0225 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:41 pm

CommanderKobialka wrote:
Vinyl wrote:Too long; didn't read.
basically says I'm becoming a brainwashed slave and child soldier.
How is that a problem?
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Vinyl » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:43 pm

ACH0225 wrote:
CommanderKobialka wrote:
Vinyl wrote:Too long; didn't read.
basically says I'm becoming a brainwashed slave and child soldier.
How is that a problem?
Yeah, sounds like standard Hexalani practices.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by CommanderKobialka » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:01 pm

ACH0225 wrote:
CommanderKobialka wrote:
Vinyl wrote:Too long; didn't read.
basically says I'm becoming a brainwashed slave and child soldier.
How is that a problem?
I wouldn't expect an owl to understand...
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Iv121 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:53 pm

Just don't take it srsly, you are not exactly a cadet as I get it so why all the worries mate ?
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Re: Super-struct

Post by CommanderKobialka » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:21 am

I'm addressed as "Cadet Private" so I think I'm a cadet... Not really sure what that means though...
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Iv121 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:56 am

Well in most cases a cadet is an officer in training, may also be any sort of a trainee passing a special course in a dedicated school, do you think you fit that criteria ? Its more like a youth movement rather than a proper military academy right ?
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Error » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:56 am

I can't speak for the JROTC, but in Canada, we have Officer Cadets and then Cadets - OCs are to-become officers, Cadets are usually 14-18 y.o.'s in something similar to the JROTC; essentially, it's recruit and basic training for each of the military branches, and mainly is used to accelerate one's career (by bypassing recruit and basic training in e.g. the Air Force and skipping straight to the more advanced stuff).

I assume the JROTC works similarly. But nice to see the media still can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Ivan2006 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am

The article sounds like hippie bullshit to me, and I'm Austrian...
We litterally educate our children to be pacifists.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by  ҉  » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:31 am

CommanderKobialka wrote:Guys. This freaking article makes me want to smash my computer on the pavement

I am most certainly not a "slave" and I am not being turned into a brainwashed "child soldier".
No, you're not being turned into an unsuccessfully brainwashed child soldier. No polity is worth dying for; if you think otherwise, it's because they've subverted your natural tendencies to the point that you can no longer tell which path is most likely to leave you as something other than a smear on a tank tread.
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Re: Super-struct

Post by Iv121 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 pm

Well mate see point is that even though no polity is worth dying for there are things worth living for, and yeah someone's gotta do the dirty job to ensure collective survival, its in your best interests too eventually...
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