The new WH40k spinoff looks great

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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:49 am

ACH0225 wrote:It was believed, prior to the whole pesticides and chemical fertilizers thing, that the world could only support 2-3 billion before mass starvation set in. This is untrue; with current crop yields, the world could be comfortably fed at the current population. You simply have to accept that everyone can be fed, but not everyone can live the first world lifestyle you enjoy. Accept that inequality, and you will see that the future is far better than one with communism or limited population.
ACHO be right, Ameria produces enough for like 2-3 times it population or something like that. And the world makes enough to feed even more.
Besides the problems are china and India, China won't be as much of a problem in the future because it has laws about how many kids you can have, India however is still a 1-3rd world country and has way to excessive population which is where a good chunk of the world pop.
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India has about 1.23 billion people
China has about 1.35 billion people
2.58 billion people = ~36% of the world population.


So let's just take all the people from Asia mainland, and move them somewhere else.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by CMA » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:00 pm

Daynel wrote:Actual communism would never work with humans, because with it everyone's equal, everyone has the same things, and it's both boring and inhuman.
Capitalism, to some extent, will eventually happen in any political system because of the way humans work, but pure capitalism isn't all that good either.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:56 pm

Yeah I think I'll have to agree with ACH here, if we accept differences we'll do just fine.
And if we don't accept differences, well, we'll just war about getting equality and wind up with even more differences.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:03 pm

Daynel wrote:Yeah I think I'll have to agree with ACH here, if we accept differences we'll do just fine.
And if we don't accept differences, well, we'll just war about getting equality and wind up with even more differences.
Hey man eventually we'll all be white English speaking classy obese Americans. And then the world shall be grand.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:21 pm

Shadowcat wrote:
Daynel wrote:Yeah I think I'll have to agree with ACH here, if we accept differences we'll do just fine.
And if we don't accept differences, well, we'll just war about getting equality and wind up with even more differences.
Hey man eventually we'll all be white English speaking classy obese Americans. And then the world shall be grand.
Or, just a crazy idea here, we could allow immigration, have a good education system, and give everyone free healtcare! I mean, I understand those are all difficult concepts to you americans, but once you learn to read, Wikipedia could help you understand.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:41 pm

Daynel wrote:
Shadowcat wrote:
Daynel wrote:Yeah I think I'll have to agree with ACH here, if we accept differences we'll do just fine.
And if we don't accept differences, well, we'll just war about getting equality and wind up with even more differences.
Hey man eventually we'll all be white English speaking classy obese Americans. And then the world shall be grand.
Or, just a crazy idea here, we could allow immigration, have a good education system, and give everyone free healtcare! I mean, I understand those are all difficult concepts to you americans, but once you learn to read, Wikipedia could help you understand.
"Free healthcare"
Oh your so funny you still think things are free.
Don't worry when your taxes go up and your country gains an actual sizable population maybe then you'll understand why healthcare from the government is shit.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Error » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:22 pm

>UK has universal health care, no complaints.
>Canada has universal health care, no complaints.
>NZ has universal health care, no complaints.
>Australia has universal health care, no complaints.
>Scandanavia has universal health care, no complaints.
>Most of Europe has universal health care, no complaints.

Shadow, your argument is invalid. Under the U.S. system, a bunch of people die or can't work because of easily-but-expensively treated illnesses. So yes, government-run healthcare pulled from taxes works better than capitalist American shitcare.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Prototype » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:01 pm

May I point out Austrialia has no complaints because anyone who steps outside to complain is immediately murdered by the wildlife. Why do you think Mack hasn't been on?
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Error » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:08 pm

That's what the healthcare is for. Pumping you full of morphiie so your death from wildlife hurts less.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:00 pm

(ಠ_ృ) wrote:>UK has universal health care, no complaints.
>Canada has universal health care, no complaints.
>NZ has universal health care, no complaints.
>Australia has universal health care, no complaints.
>Scandanavia has universal health care, no complaints.
>Most of Europe has universal health care, no complaints.

Shadow, your argument is invalid. Under the U.S. system, a bunch of people die or can't work because of easily-but-expensively treated illnesses. So yes, government-run healthcare pulled from taxes works better than capitalist American shitcare.
"Universal health care"
UK pop 63 million
Canada pop 34.8 million
NZ pop 4 million
Australia pop 22.6 million
Nordic region pop 26 million
European countries by population:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ ... population
US pop 313.9 million
California state pop 38 million

Notice the size difference? Universal healthcare might work with your tiny population but with 300 million pop and big debt US universal healthcare is a pipedream and will be shite. Capitalist healthcare can function just as well as necessary if not even better in the longrun because that's just how capitalism works, be better then your competition or die out from lack of consumers.

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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Vinyl » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:08 pm

Shadowcat wrote:be better then your competition or die out from lack of consumers.
Except there isn't much competition on the front of healthcare, and in a capitalist environment, when there isn't much competition you either pay up or you go without. And when it comes to health, you probably aren't inclined to go without.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by CommanderKobialka » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:14 pm

What we need is a global currency dumb, and return to bartering.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:16 pm

(ಠ_ರೃ) wrote:
Shadowcat wrote:be better then your competition or die out from lack of consumers.
Except there isn't much competition on the front of healthcare, and in a capitalist environment, when there isn't much competition you either pay up or you go without. And when it comes to health, you probably aren't inclined to go without.
Meh life sucks, look both ways, wash your hands, don't get sick and you won't need healthcare.

Now, for something completely different:
http://www.vhemt.org
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by CommanderKobialka » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:19 pm

Shadowcat wrote: Meh life sucks, look both ways, wash your hands, don't get sick and you won't need healthcare.

Now, for something completely different:
http://www.vhemt.org
Yes yes wallow in the idiocy of this site! Mwahahaha
I hate the people who make stuff like this. Their utter disrespect for human life is disturbing. They clearly aren't in a stable mental state.
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Re: The new WH40k spinoff looks great

Post by Error » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:20 pm

Shadowcat wrote:don't get sick
I'm amazed at your confidence in people's ability to do this on a whim.

And bear in mind your debt is your own bloody fault.

And larger population = more tax income.
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