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Logical Political discussion

Post by Phalanx » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:04 am

A logical political discussion. (I.E. without Bill O'Reilly, FOX in general, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin provided "facts.") Talk about whatever you want, as long as it's on topic.
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:06 am

Socialism all right ism, most political systems work if you don't include the human factor, smaller countries are easier to manage... that's more or less all I know about politics.
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by CommanderKobialka » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:34 am

Communism is hands-down the best political system. Period. Well... it would be if people would just work and accept the fact that they will never ever get a raise. I certainly wouldn't. But let me tell you, I would be the best communist leader.
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Iv121 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:44 am

I don't think this thread will get us anywhere in its current form, when you discuss politics you discuss specific topics (like gun holding for example) as generally describing a worldview is nigh impossible and usually just leads to friction (Im not saying that all politics lead to friction its not true and its naive fears of different internet communities unsure in themselves, you know I love politics threads and Im amazingly calm in those, well for me). Basically if you want to get anywhere pick a topic.
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Tau » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:52 am

I'm an ancap atheist with a civil liberties fetish.

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Error » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:04 pm

Iv, I think he means discuss your preferred / most hated / whatever political system and alignment.

Personally? National socialism with a hefty dose of civil liberties, but a fairly limited political rights; voting yes, but politicians must pass both common sense and legal tests to run. Should cut down pn the idiots (hence, common-sense test).
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Vinyl » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:26 pm

Commander Error wrote:National socialism with a hefty dose of civil liberties, but a fairly limited political rights; voting yes, but politicians must pass both common sense and legal tests to run. Should cut down pn the idiots (hence, common-sense test).
I was trying to figure out how to word that but then you just up and did. >:|
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Error » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:36 pm

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by CMA » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:08 am

I'm a distributist-Feudal anarcho-monarchist Traditional Catholic with Falangista sympathies. If I was an Atheist I'd be National Socialist, maybe libertarian.

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:49 am

CMA wrote:I'm a distributist-Feudal anarcho-monarchist Traditional Catholic with Falangista sympathies.
Yes, I think I know some of those words.
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Ivan2006 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:08 am

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Shadowcatbot » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:31 am

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Professor Fenway » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:46 am

I'd like to have a heavily regulated combination of socialism with democracy, where people get incentives for participating in the democracy, and a leader is chosen to lead the people under a highly sophisticated, regulated, and idiot/evil proof system using AI's, brain scans, and the top scientific equipment available. Yes, this IS for the future!

There would still be capitalism, but it would be regulated to the point to prevent super-huge corporations from ruling everything. People in need would get the help they needed. Schools and hospital care provided for by the people.

Laws that directly affect someone living in the area would be voted on by the inhabitants. I.E Law-maker bob wants to make running red lights illegal in the State of Fenway. He submits the law and the population of the State of Fenway vote on it. if it receives more than 60% or something vote YES, it becomes law. HOWEVER, if not enough people vote (At least 50% of the voting population) the law is delayed and is voted upon next week. If NO, it can either be revised or dropped entirely.

People aren't forced to vote, BUT if they don't, they lose substantial benefits. A person who regularly does not vote will lose the privileges to free education and healthcare for themselves until they regularly vote again.

And more stuff I don't want to write.

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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Vinyl » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:40 am

Sounds like NeoRome
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Re: Logical Political discussion

Post by Archduke Daynel, PhD » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:59 am

I'm all for a voting system like that, although there would be some problems because of the inevitable diversity of a country.
Like here in Norway, where there's a huge discussion about the legality of snowmobiles. With a voting system like that, the people who live places where snowmobiles are common, sometimes even a necessity, would of course vote yes for them to be legal to drive around in the wild, but the city people, who have never seen a snowmobile or a tree or anything, would vote no because SNOWMOBILES RUIN THE NATURE JUST SAYING THE WORD SNOWMOBILE IN THE WILD MAKES EVERYTHING IN A 10 MILE RADIUS DIE AND THEY ARE NOISY SO THAT ONE PERSON WHO LIVES 100 MILES AWAY MIGHT BELIEVE THERE'S A FLY OUTSIDE SOMEWHERE, and there are far more city people than non-city people.
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