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[ACH0225]

Yes, cats, I do, in fact, read your posts. Feel free to elaborate some.

Because it sounds like you're missing 100% of what I'm saying. Your last post doesn't make any sense in the context.

@Ach: Even if you did a minimal amount of work, you'd be a tier 0 civilization by now.

Do you know what Luddite means? They were not doing minimal work; they were doing none. The shields and any big tech was developed in the intergalactic war, and then they stopped. Labs closed, scientists were dismissed, nothing new was made. New developments in the private sector were confiscated and destroyed. They kept the status quo.

[Solar112]

You people do realise that you have the option of dropping out of the cats' canon rps.

[Error]

Cats, you've been pushing for (selective) realism that I think would be detrimental to quite a few people.

And to be frank, you seem to be developing a god complex when it comes to the lore.

[ACH0225]

Cats, you've been pushing for (selective) realism that I think would be detrimental to quite a few people.

And to be frank, you seem to be developing a god complex when it comes to the lore.

I think cats might be pushing for a RP layout that best suits his literary desires. I remember him bemoaning the characters he never got to put into an RP, and this may be him suiting it best for his RP style and desires. However, what's best for him isn't always best for us. As a board member, I will act to secure the desires of the people.

[Error]

That sounded disturbingly like a political ad, but I hope so.

[cats]

You people do realise that you have the option of dropping out of the cats' canon rps.

Psst, hey guys, let's go be cliquey middle schoolers!

@Ach: A HUNDRED THOUSAND YEARS. That's enough time for a government to fall a hundred times over, even on a galactic scale. Things would happen. If there were, say, a series of catastrophic events that occurred through those hundred thousand years, it wouldn't be so bad.

@Error: Selective realism has been the method since getting rid of ponies. I'm selecting the things that will be the least detrimental and the most beneficial to both lore and players. Things that are just plain dumb are detrimental to the lore, even though removing them might take away from the players. The players can adapt, but it wouldn't be a shame if we were to read over the lore and "The owls wished away the ponies with their wands of funhavium" was a sentence regarding a major event?

I haven't even put anything on the table that would effect everyone so profoundly. Lowering the power of shields doesn't get rid of them entirely, but it prevents them from becoming the sole deciding factor of battles. Requiring an explanation of the workings of shields doesn't take away from the RP, it makes players consider the way the shield functions in battle. Ach can still have special shields, but they wouldn't stop a thermonuclear bomb.

@Ach: Don't forget that you've done just a little more than absolutely nothing for the format so far.

[Error]

Whatever he has or has not done, he has just as much sway as you do, mate.

And defenses v. offenses (I.e. who can punch through shields and armor faster, who can evade or absorb the hits more) is always the deciding factor of battles.

[Chairman_Tiel]

Whatever he has or has not done, he has just as much sway as you do, mate.

Theoretically, anyway. When it comes to practice I'm sure we can all agree that those who actually fucking do stuff (never mind all of it by themselves) should probably have a bit more weight than those who only use it for swinging around.

[Error]

Fair enough, but given cats has done damn near everything he'd be approqching "sole authority". Which may or may not be a bad thing.

[ACH0225]

It's true that I haven't helped with the outline, but that's mostly because I was 100% sure any suggestions I made would be shit. Sometimes, you have to recognize when it just isn't something you can do.

Regardless, I'd like to protect the shields, keeping ship shields strong enough to be useful in combat. I'd also like to preserve at least 1 special tech per faction, such as Tiel's mega shipyards(if he still wants them), Darkstar stealth, Ivan's whatever's psychics, ect.

As for the age and how governments fall, who says they didn't? They did, however they eventually reformed.

[Chairman_Tiel]

Fair enough, but given cats has done damn near everything he'd be approqching "sole authority". Which may or may not be a bad thing.

If there's anyone I'd rather have exerting their sole control over the RP section I can't think of a better candidate, TBH. I like Fenway, just not any grudges he might have, and ACH seems to prioritize his faction before everything else.

[cats]

Whatever he has or has not done, he has just as much sway as you do, mate.

And defenses v. offenses (I.e. who can punch through shields and armor faster, who can evade or absorb the hits more) is always the deciding factor of battles.

Tactics, use of new technology, new use of old technology, other stuff. Seldom do you find a gun larger than a good tactic.

Effective effort means more than a title in this case, in my opinion. Then again, that benefits me. If I have "Sole authority" it's because I've been trying to do pretty much everything solo with minimal help from the other GMs. A few non-GMs have contributed more than those on the tribunal.

I don't want to get rid of special tech, that's the opposite of what I want to do. I would like people to expound on it and elaborate to a point where it can have its own page on the wiki, but those elaborations need to stay on the rails of physical feasibility.

@Ach: If you won't try to make suggestions, then there's no point of you being a GM. If the government fell, then advancements would be made. It's more than probable that in a hundred thousand years, enough government cycles would have passed for the tech to become very highly advanced.
@Ach/Fen: There's still quite a bit that needs to be done. The Human faction and race sheets to name one thing, and I'm noticing more and more flaws in the Faction standard formats that slipped through.

[ACH0225]

This is literally an RP on a sci-fi forum. Realism is optional.

Cats, despite what you probably intend to do, from my standpoint (and other people's as well, I think), it seems you are trying to constrict all tech to a single monotonous set of options for every faction in an effort to make it a 100% level playing field, where tactics would show through. While having the same tech would force people to think differently, the problem is that there are no real tactics. This is because this is all time-lapse spoken word, which means that while I can come up with a great plan in response to an enemy ship's movement, he can countermand that by saying that he did something between his post and mine.

Additionally, ships shouldn't really be an issue; they could be kept the same as before with little trouble, simply because nobody really does ship battles. It's more a political gambit, as exemplified by the "Empire" title, rather than a "shipbattle" title. Were a ship battle to occur, GMs could handle it case by case, running off a loosely established set of limitations on each faction's shield and weapons systems and the overall rules.

As for if the Strigiforme government fell, you seem to underestimate the level of nationalization of industries in the Strigiforme. Not surprising, but still. When a government falls, you see, most people don't research new FTL. They either hide from the newest secret police, are looting, or are the ones in the revolution. As for why the new governments didn't make stuff, it's because new government or no, all the Strigiforme were still technophobic Luddites.

[Solar112]

This is literally an RP on a sci-fi forum. Realism is optional.

I can throw a pebble at you and kill you. and any of your ships.

Cats, despite what you probably intend to do, from my standpoint (and other people's as well, I think), it seems you are trying to constrict all tech to a single monotonous set of options for every faction in an effort to make it a 100% level playing field, where tactics would show through. While having the same tech would force people to think differently, the problem is that there are no real tactics. This is because this is all time-lapse spoken word, which means that while I can come up with a great plan in response to an enemy ship's movement, he can countermand that by saying that he did something between his post and mine.

Sounds reasonable, but I'm fairly sure we should have some sort of in-order rule to prevent that.

Additionally, ships shouldn't really be an issue; they could be kept the same as before with little trouble, simply because nobody really does ship battles. It's more a political gambit, as exemplified by the "Empire" title, rather than a "shipbattle" title. Were a ship battle to occur, GMs could handle it case by case, running off a loosely established set of limitations on each faction's shield and weapons systems and the overall rules.

I'm tired so I probably misread that, but what I understand is that you're saying GMs control the ships solely? and we get no sayso? No.

[Error]

GMs determine who wins, Solar, based on how the players are set up, what ships and weapons are in use, etc.


It's essentially a reasonqbly fair way to settle fights without both sides asspulling like mad.