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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Thu May 08, 2014 9:36 pm

Not canon.
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Post by Iv121 » Thu May 08, 2014 10:15 pm

Damn the way it looks on that render kinda makes it freaking ugly, fk canon I prefer the first picture here out of them all.
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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by Ivan2006 » Fri May 09, 2014 1:59 am

@Tiel what LJS meant propably was that it was official Lucasfilms-licensed artwork, which means that whoever made it propably had access to the original model used in the films.

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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Fri May 09, 2014 5:32 am

Ivan2006 wrote:@Tiel what LJS meant propably was that it was official Lucasfilms-licensed artwork, which means that whoever made it propably had access to the original model used in the films.
Hsaio is a fanon artist with the rare render or two designated canon (mostly for EU) and even if he was buttbuddies with Lucasfilms there was hardly any CGI in any film with ISDs. They used physical models that I doubt anyone outside of the higher echelons of management would be allowed to look at.
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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by  ҉  » Fri May 09, 2014 5:39 am

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Ivan2006 wrote:@Tiel what LJS meant propably was that it was official Lucasfilms-licensed artwork, which means that whoever made it propably had access to the original model used in the films.
Hsaio is a fanon artist with the rare render or two designated canon (mostly for EU) and even if he was buttbuddies with Lucasfilms there was hardly any CGI in any film with ISDs. They used physical models that I doubt anyone outside of the higher echelons of management would be allowed to look at.
Nope. His model was used in The Force Unleashed. It's canon. Granted TFU itself was not included in Disney's list of things to save, but it seems reasonable to assume that a super-high-quality ImpStar is still a super-high-quality ImpStar.
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Post by Saravanth » Fri May 09, 2014 7:16 am

The Force Unleashed? You mean that was the thing I ripped out of the sky? Gosh, I remember that, what a pain.
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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Fri May 09, 2014 8:06 am

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Ivan2006 wrote:@Tiel what LJS meant propably was that it was official Lucasfilms-licensed artwork, which means that whoever made it propably had access to the original model used in the films.
Hsaio is a fanon artist with the rare render or two designated canon (mostly for EU) and even if he was buttbuddies with Lucasfilms there was hardly any CGI in any film with ISDs. They used physical models that I doubt anyone outside of the higher echelons of management would be allowed to look at.
Nope. His model was used in The Force Unleashed. It's canon. Granted TFU itself was not included in Disney's list of things to save, but it seems reasonable to assume that a super-high-quality ImpStar is still a super-high-quality ImpStar.
Nope. The model in TFU wasn't even licensed or anything - the devs just nabbed the model and didn't credit anyone. If that's canon it's a very loose definition of the term, especially seeing as the game itself is on a very dangerous precipice as it is.
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Post by  ҉  » Fri May 09, 2014 9:25 am

Chairman Tiel wrote:Nope. The model in TFU wasn't even licensed or anything - the devs just nabbed the model and didn't credit anyone. If that's canon it's a very loose definition of the term, especially seeing as the game itself is on a very dangerous precipice as it is.
I think we need to ignore for now the issues with Disney killing off the EU. For the purposes of this discussion, if it was canon a month ago, it's still fine for this. Moving on from that, why does the model being uncredited have any affect on whether or not it's canon? The Force Unleashed was unquestionably canon. The model appeared in The Force Unleashed. Therefore the model is canon. That's what canon means.

On a somewhat relevant side note, Hsiao isn't just some random fanon artist. This is the guy who made the UNSC Infinity for Halo 4. A couple of his models haven't been used anywhere and won't be canon until/unless they are, but most of his work has shown up somewhere. He contributed a lot of stuff to the Essential Guide to Warfare in particular. It's not like some random dude made an ImpStar that the Force Unleashed team grabbed; he's an accomplished modeler who's worked on multiple science fiction series and has a fairly impressive list of contributions to the Star Wars universe.
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Post by Chairman_Tiel » Fri May 09, 2014 10:48 am

I've looked at his career and those appear to be the exceptions, not the rule. The Star Wars projects in particular were only after he was what I suppose you could say 'discovered' in his TFU work.

Art is nothing more than a visual interpretation of how we perceive an object or thing, and I find it hard to consider an asset canon if it wasn't created by someone under contract to make an accurate representation of what we're discussing here. More likely than not the dev team was found wanting for space in their schedule and snatched it up (as he offers pretty much all his stuff for free) instead of devoting the time to making their own.

I have no desire to argue with you, but that's just where I stand on this and it's not subject to change anytime soon.
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Re: Have a Picture...

Post by Shadowcatbot » Fri May 09, 2014 8:36 pm

I find that render ugly too, needs to be sleeker and painted black. And a ram reds to be put in the front for tacticool engagements.
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