turning a weak army into an army of pussies

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:18 pm

Essentially our (the Austrian) minister of defense wants to make a rulebook for officers that keeps them from swearing at the soldiers.

Post by **Error** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:21 pm

...what?

Cussing is an integral part of military culture. It's the go-to language. Why would s/he do that?

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:23 pm

Because he's smart. (That was a pun. His name is Klug, which is litterally the German word for smart.)

Post by **Error** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:25 pm

Does he suffer the "officers are too harsh" view?

As a former Cadet, I assure you, officers aren't the issue. NCOs are the master of the curse.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:47 pm

Well, the rulebook is supposed to be issued to officers and NCOs both, so that won't make a difference.
Also he decided to do so because the privates and corporals complained about them being offensive.
Since they have free wlan too, I'm gonna seriously consider going to the military. (the Austrian system for compulsory service makes you decide whether you become a soldier or do social work instead)

Iv121 · Post by **Iv121** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:04 pm

Well most compulsory service systems do it so the pacifists got no excuses now.

Post by **Error** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:09 pm

I can see the reasoning behind compulsory service, even if I don't agree with it.

But on topic, methinks your foot soldiers complain a bit much. A cursing sergeant isn't bad compared to the rain, mud, wind, and crappy rations most soldiers get while out in the field.

Hence the old jokes-
Infantry: this sucks.
Rangers: I like the way this sucks.
Spec. Forces: I wish this would suck more.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:19 pm

well, we have no soldiers 'out in the field'.
The average Austrian soldier on abroad missions pretty much is in the same situation as Kobalkia atm.
The only time they get 'out in the field' is maneuvers which are not really anything serious.
I'm just pointing out that this way Austria won't be able to stand it's ground if it gets attacked before help arrives. (we kinda got a guarantee of independence from Russia, France, Britain and the US)

Iv121 · Post by **Iv121** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:21 pm

So did Ukraine my friend , so did Ukraine ...

Shadowcatbot · Post by **Shadowcatbot** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:57 pm

Sounds like America needs to come over there and whoop your pussie military into shape :3 and by that I mean hire some other guys to do it for us.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:01 pm

Problem is that the same treaty where you guarantee for our independence also says that you're supposed to stay out, so 'coming over' is not an option.

Shadowcatbot · Post by **Shadowcatbot** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:04 pm

Ivan2006 wrote:Problem is that the same treaty where you guarantee for our independence also says that you're supposed to stay out, so 'coming over' is not an option.

We'll wait five years till your army becomes a bunch I pussies, invade to save you from 'a corrupt inefficient goverment' and do it again.

And take all your oil.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:11 pm

Uhm... We don't have any oil. Fracking is illegal here for environment protection reasons and aside from that we have, like, 10 low-output oil drils. The rest is imported.

Post by **Tau** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:28 pm

Then we'll steal your... uhh... what's a stereotypical Austrian export?

Shadowcatbot · Post by **Shadowcatbot** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:30 pm

Tau wrote:Then we'll steal your... uhh... what's a stereotypical Austrian export?

Cheese maybe?

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