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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Error » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:28 am

I'd think rail weapons for longer range (no diffusion or diffraction by the atmosphere) and frickin' laser beams for shorter range stuff (because lasers).
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:51 am

Different costs and crafting recipes. Lasers do less damage but burn, Rail weapons do more damage but no burn. It's about choosing what sort of damage you want.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Ivan2006 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:11 pm

I would also suggest another difference: Rail weapons have less ammo per clip than laser weapons. In turn possibly make the difference in terms of firepower more severe
It should end up with the total demage of emptying a full magazine being slightly higher for rail weapons than for laser weapons, to compensate for the burn-effect.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:20 pm

I could also balance it in terms of the cost of resources for the Ammo.

Also finished the final upgrade for the AB24, and sent a version with fixed stats and Recipes to Monorisu.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by cats » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:07 pm

Mix conventional combustion and rail weapons instead of putting rail in front of an archetypal name. I strongly advise revising the weapon list.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:20 pm

Ideally you want a set of each type of weapons so you can pick and choose, rail and conventional will require different resources to craft, so I'd rather a set of each. Though names need to be sorted out.

Believe me, crafting resources makes a huge impact. Conventional will have a cheaper gun but more costly ammo, rail will have a more expensive gun and cheaper ammo. Laser will be a halfway.

So, for the guns:

Conventional- uses iron, gun breach, barrel

Laser- uses iron, plasma cell, capacitor, barrel

Rail: uses iron, capacitors, barrel, gun breach


For the ammo:

Conventional- iron and gunpowder

Laser- capacitor and iron

Rail- iron

Differing amounts for each individual weapon.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:09 am

Done the LRW (beam sniper) model:

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Now I cocked scaling up, and it was initially bigger than steve, even with a 0.3 size multiplier on the model.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Ivan2006 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:06 pm

Prototype wrote:Ideally you want a set of each type of weapons so you can pick and choose, rail and conventional will require different resources to craft, so I'd rather a set of each. Though names need to be sorted out.

Believe me, crafting resources makes a huge impact. Conventional will have a cheaper gun but more costly ammo, rail will have a more expensive gun and cheaper ammo. Laser will be a halfway.

So, for the guns:

Conventional- uses iron, gun breach, barrel

Laser- uses iron, plasma cell, capacitor, barrel

Rail: uses iron, capacitors, barrel, gun breach


For the ammo:

Conventional- iron and gunpowder

Laser- capacitor and iron

Rail- iron

Differing amounts for each individual weapon.
I'd like to know why you need iron for laser ammo. Maybe for the case, but then only very small amounts.
The combination of capacitors and iron seems more like something I'd make a railgun clip with. After all, you'd need power to operate it as well, right?
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:02 pm

You don't need capacitors in a rail gun clip, those are in the gun already, and you could always use EM induction to recover power used in firing the thing (this doesn't work in practice but a lot of people won't know or care). Plus the gun will have a lot of capacitors in, so you really want cheap ammo to justify the gun. Explosive rounds would work here, like an electromagnetic Bolter.


The iron in the laser ammo is for the case, so a single ingot will do depending on the physical size of the clip, and the capacitors would be there because you need to hold the plasma in place (because the gun excites the plasma which emits high energy photons which get focused through the barrel and blah blah blah pew pew pew burn burn burn)
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:00 pm

You're thinking of plasma guns, bro. Laser is directed light.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:01 am

Tiel wrote:You're thinking of plasma guns, bro. Laser is directed light.
Well plasma is just ionised gas, so you could de-ionise it and use the gas for the laser, but why would you bother?
I don't have a gas component made already so I stuck plasma in there as placeholder.

That, or it could be an electro laser, one that creates a laser induced plasma channel then sends a fucking big current through it, which is basically like lightening. (Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolas ... ma_channel)

Of I could just make a proper component like a gas chamber or solid state crystal.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:39 am

also just googled definition of Bullpup, and the AB24, by definition, is not Bullpup (firing mechanism is in front of trigger mechanism), Wikipedia says so therefore it must be true, stop complaining.
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Ivan2006 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:21 am

Which one is the AB24 again?
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Prototype » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:05 am

Ivan2006 wrote:Which one is the AB24 again?
The first one I posted, Laser assault rifle
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Re: FC content pack flan's [THREADNAUGHT]

Post by Ivan2006 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:34 am

So... Are you gonna make it bullpup?
Bullpup rifles are awesome.
(although it's hard to design one that doesn't look like an AUG-ripoff)
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