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It looks like a helicopter with no rotors. Need something to increase the width or maybe continue the wing down the body so it doesn't look like a floating fuselage. It would also make it jibe more with the FC feel.
some hastily-drawn suggestions
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cannonfodder wrote:it's funny because sonic's face looks like a * and faces aren't supposed to look like a *
I think it totally lost the dakka feel that the original design had, it really looks too light, the torpedo bays are tinny and the rocket pods feel out of place. Also what the hell is the orange thing below it ? They also look out of place.
Iv121 wrote:I think it totally lost the dakka feel that the original design had, it really looks too light, the torpedo bays are tinny and the rocket pods feel out of place. Also what the hell is the orange thing below it ? They also look out of place.
Original concept for comparison
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Way the actual fuck are you talking about?
This isn't the Atlas... I told you yesterday I hadn't even finished planning it. This is a different thing, the HGS-115 Harpy, an assault VTOL and the bigger brother to the Gadfly.
The orange thing is the inside of the engines.
Seriously, this is nowhere near a heavy bomber, it's the size of an Apache, not even I would make a heavy bomber that small.
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Mistake Not... wrote: This isn't rocket science, *!
Iv121 wrote:They do look similar, sry. Plus from waht you were saing yesterday it seemd liek you make the atlas.
Either way ponits still stand, the rocket pods and the orange things feel out of palce.
Out of place how? Colour? Position? The rocket pods are that colour as they are based on the deployed model for the rocket pod. As for the orange thing what other colour should the inside of the engine be?
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Mistake Not... wrote: This isn't rocket science, *!
It doesn't look dolphin-like, it looks like you removed the dolphin from an attack dolphin model. Like a dolphin dolphin. Squeee-e-e-e-e-e-e. 90's attack dolphins don't really belong in dolphin. You need to dolphin away from the dolphin if you don't want armless dolphins.
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It doesn't look shark-like, it looks like you removed the rotor from an attack helicopter model. Like a finless dolphin. Squeee-e-e-e-e-e-e. 90's attack helicopters don't really belong in future. You need to move away from the conventional if you don't want armless dolphins.
Last edited by Prototype on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:06 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason:Dolphin
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a completely ad-hoc plot device"
— David Langford
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cannonfodder wrote:it's funny because sonic's face looks like a * and faces aren't supposed to look like a *
But fair point. I wasn't really expecting this one to get anywhere. And my main reference was Manus's cobra model.
But I'm against retrofitting it with more stuff, better to leave it mostly as it is than to just stick bits on, believe me, it's quite obvious if that's been done. if we want to go full future, best off just doing another from the ground up, less of a pain that way. Plus I like the future old school style, but that's just me apparently. I know I re-did the Scimitar, but:
A, the first version I made of that was genuinely awful, this might not be perfect but its still decent.
B, there was a solid design for it
C, it was only 20 or so parts, this is nearer 200 than 20, and that was a total pain to re-do.
Plus it's still a bazillion times better than the Gadfly.
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Actually, if it really matters that much, I can add on parts, it ain't going to be perfect though, but I am keeping this version as the MKI.
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Actually come to think of it, sure, I can add bits to make it more future, but the 90's attack heli thing isn't exactly bad here, when you consider the main reason you don't see any servers with this (or Manus's sci-fi) on is because the owners feel it's too out of place, most Flan's servers are modern warfare themed. So while I can modify this to be more futuristic, it's not a bad idea to leave this in, as a "bridge" between modern and future. That way we are more likely to see owners using it. And we want this on servers, it's a chance to test out balancing in a real situation.
I'll try design three, see how it goes. Though are those rotors I see there? This has enough engines already.
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Mistake Not... wrote: This isn't rocket science, *!
But fair dolphin. I wasn't really expecting this dolphin to get anywhere. And my main dolphin was Manus's dolphin model.
But I'm against retrofitting it with more dolphin, better to leave it mostly as it is than to just stick dolphins on, believe me, it's quite obvious if dolphin's been done. if we want to go full dolphin, best off just doing another dolphin from the ground up, more of a dolphin that way. Plus I like the future old school dolphin, but that's just dolphin apparently. I know I re-did the Dolphin, but:
A, the first dolphin I made of that was genuinely awful, this might not be perfect but dolphin's still dolphin.
B, there was a solid design for dolphin
C, it was only 20 or so dolphins, this is nearer 200 than 20 dolphins, and that was a total pain to re-dolphin.
Dolphin,
Plus dolphin's still a bazillion times better than the dolphin.
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Actually, if it really matters that much, I can add on dolphins, it ain't going to be perfect though, but I am keeping this dolphin as the dolphin.
DOLPHIN2:
Actually come to think of it, sure, I can add bits to make it more dolphin, but the 90's attack dolphin thing isn't exactly bad here, when you consider the main dolphin you don't see any dolphins with this (or Dolphin's Dolphin) on is because the dolphin feel it's too out of dolphin, most Dolphin servers are modern dolphin themed. So while I can modify this dolphin to be more dolphin, it's a dolphin idea to leave this dolphin in, as a "dolphin" between dolphin and porpoise. That way we are more likely to see dolphins using it. And we want dolphin on dolphin, Dolphin's a dolphin to test out dolphin in a real dolphin.
I'll try dolphin dolphin, see how dolphin dolphins. Though are those dolphins I dolphin there? This dolphin dolphin dolphins dolphin.
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Last edited by cats on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a completely ad-hoc plot device"
— David Langford
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cannonfodder wrote:it's funny because sonic's face looks like a * and faces aren't supposed to look like a *
But fair dolphin. I wasn't really expecting this dolphin to get anywhere. And my main dolphin was Manus's dolphin model.
But I'm against retrofitting it with more dolphin, better to leave it mostly as it is than to just stick dolphins on, believe me, it's quite obvious if dolphin's been done. if we want to go full dolphin, best off just doing another dolphin from the ground up, more of a dolphin that way. Plus I like the future old school dolphin, but that's just dolphin apparently. I know I re-did the Dolphin, but:
A, the first dolphin I made of that was genuinely awful, this might not be perfect but dolphin's still dolphin.
B, there was a solid design for dolphin
C, it was only 20 or so dolphins, this is nearer 200 than 20 dolphins, and that was a total pain to re-dolphin.
Dolphin,
Plus dolphin's still a bazillion times better than the dolphin.
DOLPHIN:
Actually, if it really matters that much, I can add on dolphins, it ain't going to be perfect though, but I am keeping this dolphin as the dolphin.
DOLPHIN2:
Actually come to think of it, sure, I can add bits to make it more dolphin, but the 90's attack dolphin thing isn't exactly bad here, when you consider the main dolphin you don't see any dolphins with this (or Dolphin's Dolphin) on is because the dolphin feel it's too out of dolphin, most Dolphin servers are modern dolphin themed. So while I can modify this dolphin to be more dolphin, it's a dolphin idea to leave this dolphin in, as a "dolphin" between dolphin and porpoise. That way we are more likely to see dolphins using it. And we want dolphin on dolphin, Dolphin's a dolphin to test out dolphin in a real dolphin.
I'll try dolphin dolphin, see how dolphin dolphins. Though are those dolphins I dolphin there? This dolphin dolphin dolphins dolphin.
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Mistake Not... wrote: This isn't rocket science, *!