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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by joykler » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:29 pm

okey once again i ask you why
slaves are important in future things
they are not actually accepted but
theyre just part of the futur

[it just fits the faction its like you tell someone who plays a dwarf in a roleplay that he should grow]
[slaves are a big part of the future. give me a good sci-fi series were no slaves were used]

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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:08 pm

In Novum space, slavery is an act punishable by execution. "Any persons whom have engaged in the purchase, trade, or ownership of a slave, regardless of current standing on the subject or personally followed law, they are required to be executed by removal of the lungs or any lung equivalent." - Article 4V of The Established Law ((Novum's constitution))
"Hereof, the Mercenary United as well as any subfaction or splinter group of shall be attacked and executed on site as well as barred from Novum space. This law shall be in effect until its repeal or the disbandment of the Mercenary United. Appropriate military actions to be taken against the Mercenary United include: Nuclear weaponry, Magnetic Acceleration Cannons, Rams, and 0.5 - 218m kinetic weaponry." - Article 45C of The Established Law
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by joykler » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:45 pm

give me an answer
[slaves are a big part of the future. give me a good sci-fi series were no slaves were used]

and if your faction is against it but people living in your faction
do these kinds of things

like the srmf or something faction

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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:48 pm

Novum makes no use of slaves and finds the practice inhumane and immoral. All workers are paid individuals who applied for the job and are paid or are robots who are specifically designed for the task.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by  ҉  » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:49 pm

joykler wrote:[slaves are a big part of the future. give me a good sci-fi series were no slaves were used]
Battlestar Galactica. Old Man's War. Star Trek, as far as I'm aware. Gateway. Known Space. Aliens. Event Horizon. Babylon 5, as far as I'm aware. Halo. Solar Clipper. Revelation Space. Logan's Run. Forever War. I could go on for a while. Your statement is absurd.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:54 pm

Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:
joykler wrote:[slaves are a big part of the future. give me a good sci-fi series were no slaves were used]
Battlestar Galactica. Old Man's War. Star Trek, as far as I'm aware. Gateway. Known Space. Aliens. Event Horizon. Babylon 5, as far as I'm aware. Halo. Solar Clipper. Revelation Space. Logan's Run. Forever War. I could go on for a while. Your statement is absurd.
Wow... I didn't even know half of those were even things.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by joykler » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:40 pm

startrek definitley uses them
maybe the federation doesnt but all the rest does

in the new prequel to alien
there is a robot that has such a lvl of emotion that they know
but they still treat him as a slave

some people from halo also use slaves

im glad you didnt say starwars or else i had killed you

and well i dont know many of them but i tryd searching for the title and then slavery
this is what came up
Spoiler:
battlestar galactica = the cyclons were slaves
old mans war= immediately envisioned her as an Orion slave girl
gateway= got too many not movie related things
known space= the background elements of the Slaver civilization (introduced in World of Ptavvs
alien = well the robot but also from the prequel prometheus the fact they used the human race as a test-subject
event horizon =Slavers thrive in the lawless areas of the galaxy, and in the Amarrian territories which view the slave business as a legal profession. Some slavers are notorious ...
babylon 5 =She lived as a slave to a Golian named Trakis, "contracted" legally via the Republic. In 2258, Trakis had her working in a strip club on Earth station Babylon 5
halo=Slavery is a practice occurring in alarming numbers throughout the distant reaches of Alliance space, with the slave trade being at an estimated 16 billion credits. Many groups have formed to protest slavery, of various kinds, from many distinct races. The topic of slavery become a focus point with Alliance officials in the last quarter of the 26th century and the beginning of the next. Though many factions have banned it, for millennia in some cases, it is still practised as a 'cultural right', mostly in ex-Covenant states.
revalation space=Sometime before the events of Revelation Space the Captain was infected ..... the revelation that, even while as crew aboard the space-yacht, he was a slave to ...
logans run= couldnt find enything you got me there
forever war= too many other things
so this is what im saying
you may dislike it
but it just fits with the faction i want to create
and it should be a part of a galaxy
you dont need to become friends with us
but just let us scavenge we are the crows
we clean up your mess and in the process we steal and
enslave a little

if you dont think it should be in a galaxy check the list

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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by cats » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:58 pm

Slavery, in one form or another, is an inevitability. There could be interstellar laws against it, but the galaxy's not unified enough to enforce it and there would always be an underground slave trade.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by joykler » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:14 pm

and who represents the underground

i do!!!! jai

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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Error » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:19 pm

Shall we simplify this discussion?
What do you think, posters? Shall this be simplified immensely?
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:26 pm

((I think we should just talk about how this happened and what both sides believe the case to be.))
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by  ҉  » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:28 pm

joykler wrote:startrek definitley uses them
maybe the federation doesnt but all the rest does
Having looked it up, it turns out there is slavery. It's treated as something evil, though.
joykler wrote:in the new prequel to alien
there is a robot that has such a lvl of emotion that they know
but they still treat him as a slave
He's a robot. A human-looking robot, granted, but a robot nonetheless.
joykler wrote:battlestar galactica = the cyclons were slaves
The Cylons were robots. Is your computer a slave? If not, the Cylons weren't either.
joykler wrote:old mans war= immediately envisioned her as an Orion slave girl
I legitimately have no idea what to say to that.
joykler wrote:gateway= got too many not movie related things
Yeah, I'm not surprised. It's too common a word. It's a book by Usula K. LeGuin.
joykler wrote:known space= the background elements of the Slaver civilization (introduced in World of Ptavvs
The Slaver species has been extinct for longer than humanity has existed. Some of their technology survives, but that's it. Again, also, it's treated as something evil. The Slavers didn't just go extinct; they were all killed in a war with the tnuctipun, a former slave race. The Kzinti Empire also kept slaves before the Man-Kzin Wars, but humans put a stop to that relatively quickly, and it's used as an example of how the kzinti are barbarians. This one is a bit of a grey area, though, so I'll concede the point if you want it.
joykler wrote:alien = well the robot but also from the prequel prometheus the fact they used the human race as a test-subject
Again, robots. Although in Alien the android was a full crewmember, not a slave in any way. I have no idea what was supposed to be going on in Prometheus despite having seen the movie, though, so who knows. Being an unknowing guinea pig isn't the same as being a slave, though.
joykler wrote:event horizon =Slavers thrive in the lawless areas of the galaxy, and in the Amarrian territories which view the slave business as a legal profession. Some slavers are notorious ...
Event Horizon is a common enough name that I dunno what you found, but the movie I saw was a sci fi/horror standalone that doesn't have any sort of expanded universe, and definitely contains no slavery. There are no lawless areas of the galaxy, because humanity hasn't gotten out of the solar system yet (unless you count wherever Event Horizon itself went, which may or may not have actually been another place. It's not clear.) There's no Amarr in this movie, though.
joykler wrote:babylon 5 =She lived as a slave to a Golian named Trakis, "contracted" legally via the Republic. In 2258, Trakis had her working in a strip club on Earth station Babylon 5
I don't know that much about Babylon 5, so you could well be right. That's why I wrote 'as far as I know' for that one.
joykler wrote:halo=Slavery is a practice occurring in alarming numbers throughout the distant reaches of Alliance space, with the slave trade being at an estimated 16 billion credits. Many groups have formed to protest slavery, of various kinds, from many distinct races. The topic of slavery become a focus point with Alliance officials in the last quarter of the 26th century and the beginning of the next. Though many factions have banned it, for millennia in some cases, it is still practised as a 'cultural right', mostly in ex-Covenant states.
What's the Alliance? I've never heard of a government in Halo called the Alliance, although I'm not completely up to date on all the stuff Halo 4 added.
joykler wrote:revalation space=Sometime before the events of Revelation Space the Captain was infected ..... the revelation that, even while as crew aboard the space-yacht, he was a slave to ...
The Captain was infected with the plague. That was kind of a screwy book, but being in stasis because you've got some sort of metal infection that's eating the ship isn't the same as slavery.
joykler wrote:logans run= couldnt find enything you got me there
forever war= too many other things
Both of these are old. Logan's Run is a movie and Forever War is a book (actually I wouldn't be surprised if they're both both, but that's what they were first I think). Forever War has a weird government, and Logan's Run has some complicated dystopian stuff, but neither one has slavery.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Phalanx » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:35 pm

DEATH TO THE M.U. SLAVE TRADERS!!!! No, literally.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:39 pm

@LJS I've not heard of any sort of Alliance in Halo except when the sangheili and UNSC helped each other out a bit during the Human-Covenant war. Never heard of anything called The Alliance.
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Re: Agreement against slavery

Post by joykler » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:40 pm

we were clear on the fact
that when robots have feelings and express emotion and think that way
they are able to become slaves

and for the rest i just searched
and copied stuff that wasnt fan written

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