Agreement against slavery

[joykler]

why are animals less then humanoids
and we are all ants to some life forms

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Really?

[joykler]

bacteries

they can adept thier own structure to fight
other bacteries

and ants build citys,use cattle
fight way bigger enemys

[Prototype]

Do nano bot ants count?

[Ivan2006]

@joyk
You do realize that a single ant is very... dumb.
No, wait, they´re not intelligent enough to be called dumb.
Be serious, is that your honest opinion or just some fail-guaranteed try to get you out of this misery?

[joykler]

thats is really my opinion
i think animals are equel to humans
but im not a animal rights activist
or a vegetarian


but when facing aliens robots
and all knowing beings i really think slavery shouldnt be a problem
because we are like animals to them
and all of our accomplishments are not really important

i mean yhea sure in all of the universe we are that important
because we are able to make computers
humans are just to arrogant

the fact that there are vegetarians shows us how arrogant we are
they say they are better then how we are build
we need meat

[Iv121]

I didnt get your point -.- .

[joykler]

if there would be mecha robots
aliens
and all knowing beings

we would be like animals
so slavery wouldnt be a problem

i think thats how it is
we are just another kind of animal

[Iv121]

Well no, we have needs that we need to fulfil. For THEM they might look basic but for us they are good living conditions. The same goes to animals. That doesn't cancel the set of rights that each group needs.

[joykler]

so you are against cattle holding
and keeping pets ?

because thats what it would be like

[Iv121]

I'm not. I have a cat. She lives a very good life in my apartment but she can't go out of the house. For us it might be a denial of important rights but for her this is not necessary at all. When we bring stuff out of the car after shopping we leave the door open. She could escape countless times if she wanted but she doesn't want to, she is perfectly fine with what is given her here.

[joykler]

yes thats accactly what they said about slaves

some would run
and they would say they werent behaving right
some would stay and then they would say see why dont they run why dont they fight ?


i have a cat too and if we try to keep them in they get angry because they are used to being outside
and it isnt essential to be outside as a human of course we are used to it and consider it a everyday thing
but thats the same for my cats
if someone trys to keep me in i would be angry too
but if i was used to be inside all day long i wouldnt go outside at a certain point
and some would because they dont follow the rules

and we can try to make them as good as possible but in fact they are slaves in some way
cats dont perform labor

but horses dogs cows pigs do
so thats slavery and im fine with it

[Iv121]

I can't explain you what slavery is it seems even though you are human ...

Also my cat did go outside a few times. She was clever enough to open the nets we have on our windows against bugs and she went out of the window, set there then went back. She can, she could and if she wanted she would escape but she likes it here.

[joykler]

because its used to
the same with my cat

but if you would
take a cat from the wild who is used to people
you wouldnt be able to let them stay

lavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation.

the wiki

well pets are bought and sold
work is in diffrent forms
a dog that keeps you company is working they wouldnt do it if no-one tought them to
well against their will we just talked about that