Today I learned that Chile is the 4th Reich.

҉ · Post by ҉ » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 pm

Chile hasn't been a dictatorship for decades now. You have no cause for alarm.

hyperlite · Post by **hyperlite** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:32 am

Their helmets and black uniforms though, makes them look like nazis.

cats · Post by **cats** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:57 am

Well Iran is the Republic.

Iv121 · Post by **Iv121** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:04 am

Oh cmon they dont even know how to march as you can clearly see here ...

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:44 am

hyperlite wrote:Their helmets and black uniforms though, makes them look like *.

If they were the 4th Reich, they'd have brown uniforms.
But honestly, a lot of NAZIs live in South American exile AFAIK (of course not the original ones, they are dead, but their descendants, often still with the same world view, are quite common there).
I don't know about Chile, but I know Argentina is quite a hot spot for right-wing extremists.

hyperlite · Post by **hyperlite** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:39 am

Right wing extremists would be anarchists, what are you saying.

Iv121 · Post by **Iv121** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:53 am

Not at all, I dunno what you read about the Third Reich but from my history lessons they were well oiled and organized machine perfectly subordinate to their leader.

Post by **Tau** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:01 am

hyperlite wrote:Right wing extremists would be anarchists, what are you saying.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:41 am

hyperlite wrote:Right wing extremists would be anarchists, what are you saying.

You are making the mistake of going into the wrong direction.

Left-wing is Socialism, AKA "everyone is equal", so left-wing extremists say "Everyone is equal and if someone thinks they can get any benefit, which would disrupt equality, they shall be purged!".
Right-wing on the other hand is Nationalism, AKA "Hey, I am cool, because I'm from _____", so right wing extremists say: "We are superior! Submit to our superior rule or pay the price for not obeying the superiority!"

Both extremes basically need a dictatorship to function long-term in a human society.

I personally prefer 'political maps' with two coordinates (left-right and freedom-order) over the 'traditional' gauge with just left and right.

Post by **Error** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:56 am

I use the 3D political grid. Left right as normal, up and down for freedom-totalitarian, and fore-aft for capitalist-communist.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:59 am

Good point, after all, political freedom and economic freedom aren't the same...

cats · Post by **cats** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:15 pm

I prefer the four-dimensional grid that implements the Time Lord/Mobius axis.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:22 pm

catsonmeth wrote:Time Lord/Mobius axis

Mobius as in 'Sonic the Hedgehog'-mobius or something else?

Saravanth · Post by **Saravanth** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:34 pm

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