Conspiracy Theories: Smart and Stupid
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:51 pm
by CommanderKobialka
Welcome to the mind of a conspiracy theorist... A dangerous place full of secrets and lies... A place where Big Brother is always watching, The New World Order is just around the corner, and 9/11 was no terrorist attack. What you find here may disturb you... Continue at your own risk. I don't believe everything I am going to write in this thread, so I don't want any of you looking at me in a different way afterward. I am only here to categorize some of the conspiracy theories I have heard into three categories: Smart, Believable, and Stupid. If there is one that I believe to be true, I will say so at the end of the description. In the comment section please give me more conspiracy theories that you have heard, and you think I should add. Please be serious in your replies. btw... THIS TOOK 4 HOURS SO FREAKING READ IT
So far there is 1 in Smart, 1 in Believable, and 2 in Stupid.
SMART:
Wow. More people should know this.
9/11
BELIEVABLE:
Sounds interesting... but there are quite a few good arguments against it...
The New World Order and the Illuminati
STUPID:
Come on people. Don't be retarded.
Reptilian Secret Agents
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Fake Moon Landings
So far there is 1 in Smart, 1 in Believable, and 2 in Stupid.
SMART:
Wow. More people should know this.
9/11
Spoiler:
I myself used to think that anyone who believed this conspiracy theory was sick and insensitive, but I now believe that the evidence supporting this theory is overwhelming. This conspiracy theory is somewhat tied to the one about the Illuminati, and you can read more about what the Illuminati is in a few minutes.
For years the American people have been told that the terrorist attack against the World Trade Centers on September 11, 2001 was masterminded and carried out by terrorists. However many believe it was a government setup. What proof do we have for this theory, and more importantly... why would the government do such a sick, horrible thing to it's own citizens...
9/11
Let me get something straight before I start this one. Many firefighters are calling BS on 9/11 because it is a FACT the NO STEEL BUILDING has EVER been DESTROYED by a FIRE. The maximum burning temperature of jet fuel is not hot enough to melt steel. Many may argue, that the burning doesn't have to melt the steel in the building. It only has to weaken it. True. Very true. Have you ever burned jet fuel? It burns up really quick. Too quick to weaken a building.
For weeks before 9/11, people in New York reported Vans parking outside the world trade center at around 2 AM, after the janitors left, and leaving before the building opened. Who were they and what were they doing there? Conspiracy theorists would tell you they were demolition teams. It takes several weeks of planning before a demolition can take place. (Remember this. It's important later) Then it takes a while after that to set up the explosive charges.
The planes that hit the buildings on 9/11 hit from the side, obviously. So, even if the fuel was able to weaken the steel enough to make the towers fall, common sense would tell you that the building, or at least the top, would topple to the side, correct? HA! You fool. You're wrong, you see. It would fall straight down, or so the people in the government would want you to believe. This topic is already going to take forever to create so I'm not going to go searching for a youtube video showing this, but moments before the buildings fell, flashes were seen in the windows of every third or so story. What the hell were the flashes coming from? It COULDN'T be explosives, could it? Those buildings were DEMOLISHED.
So the twin towers came down. Then something absolutely incredible happened. World Trade Center Building 7, a forty-seven story, STEEL office building, fell straight down. How? Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, or even wreckage from the twin towers! Video evidence shows fires had started in all the buildings around the twin towers. How did those fires get there? Nobody has bothered trying to explain how the fires got there, but they will tell you that those fires brought WTC 7 down. Like I said before, a fire cannot bring down a steel building.
If you saw pictures of the fires in Building 7 you would see how small they were. If they were so small, why didn't the sprinkler system extinguish them? A firefighter at building 7 says he received a call from his commander saying they weren't sure they could contain the fire! WHAT? He then said that the smartest thing to so was to "pull it". Pulling a building is an industrial term for controlled demolishing. Is it really possible that in only a few hours, firefighters were able to go into that building, set up charges, and then demolish it, when controlled demolitions take weeks of careful planning to keep from damaging surrounding buildings? If you look at pictures of the wreckage of WTC 7 from above, you will notice that the rubble pile small, much like something you would see from a controlled demolition. It looks as if it were planned so it didn't hurt the buildings surrounding it.
A quick note I should add is that eye witnesses of the second plane say that the plane was black, and many of them thought it was a military plane.
Firefighters aren't the only ones calling BS on 9/11. Pilots are as well. I want you all to look at this picture of the Pentagon after the "plane" crashed into it.
WTF! Some of you may not have caught on to what I'm trying to prove with this picture. A commercial plane, much like the ones said to have flown into the twin towers, flew into the Pentagon, right? That hole in the Pentagon is about... eeeeeh... 50 feet wide. The plane that hit it had a wingspan of 125 feet. So... Maybe it hit the Pentagon at an angle? Take another look at the picture. Where's the plane? Where's the luggage? If Jet fuel burned down the twin towers, where's the burning jet fuel? The only video that has ever been released to the public of this event is this one: SKIP TO 1:25
In the frame just before the explosion the nose of the "plane" appears. But can you prove that that's a plane? Start the video at 2:05 and stop watching at 3:32
That was a cruise missile. I don't need to repeat what was said in the clip so let's move on to why the government would do such a thing...
CONTROL. That's why. The government want's complete, utter control over the people of America. We've seen it before in history. History repeats itself. The government is using 9/11 and terrorism that doesn't exist to take away our guns. The government has been caught multiple times reading facebook posts with keywords. Obama is calling gun owners... EVERY gun owner, and Ron Paul supporter a terrorist. Obama has created several laws and passed many bills under executive order, which means he knows congress wouldn't vote it in. Here's something interesting: When Obama came into office he decided he was going to "help" the economy by releasing Stimulus Packages... in other words... he would print money. Congress passed it. Do you know why? They've said why. They received hundreds of emails and phone calls threatening that the economy would collapse if they voted against it. Nobody even read the document which was thousands of pages long. I don't blame them either. Obama gave them only a few hours before the vote...
I personally believe the government set up 9/11.
For years the American people have been told that the terrorist attack against the World Trade Centers on September 11, 2001 was masterminded and carried out by terrorists. However many believe it was a government setup. What proof do we have for this theory, and more importantly... why would the government do such a sick, horrible thing to it's own citizens...
9/11
Let me get something straight before I start this one. Many firefighters are calling BS on 9/11 because it is a FACT the NO STEEL BUILDING has EVER been DESTROYED by a FIRE. The maximum burning temperature of jet fuel is not hot enough to melt steel. Many may argue, that the burning doesn't have to melt the steel in the building. It only has to weaken it. True. Very true. Have you ever burned jet fuel? It burns up really quick. Too quick to weaken a building.
For weeks before 9/11, people in New York reported Vans parking outside the world trade center at around 2 AM, after the janitors left, and leaving before the building opened. Who were they and what were they doing there? Conspiracy theorists would tell you they were demolition teams. It takes several weeks of planning before a demolition can take place. (Remember this. It's important later) Then it takes a while after that to set up the explosive charges.
The planes that hit the buildings on 9/11 hit from the side, obviously. So, even if the fuel was able to weaken the steel enough to make the towers fall, common sense would tell you that the building, or at least the top, would topple to the side, correct? HA! You fool. You're wrong, you see. It would fall straight down, or so the people in the government would want you to believe. This topic is already going to take forever to create so I'm not going to go searching for a youtube video showing this, but moments before the buildings fell, flashes were seen in the windows of every third or so story. What the hell were the flashes coming from? It COULDN'T be explosives, could it? Those buildings were DEMOLISHED.
So the twin towers came down. Then something absolutely incredible happened. World Trade Center Building 7, a forty-seven story, STEEL office building, fell straight down. How? Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, or even wreckage from the twin towers! Video evidence shows fires had started in all the buildings around the twin towers. How did those fires get there? Nobody has bothered trying to explain how the fires got there, but they will tell you that those fires brought WTC 7 down. Like I said before, a fire cannot bring down a steel building.
If you saw pictures of the fires in Building 7 you would see how small they were. If they were so small, why didn't the sprinkler system extinguish them? A firefighter at building 7 says he received a call from his commander saying they weren't sure they could contain the fire! WHAT? He then said that the smartest thing to so was to "pull it". Pulling a building is an industrial term for controlled demolishing. Is it really possible that in only a few hours, firefighters were able to go into that building, set up charges, and then demolish it, when controlled demolitions take weeks of careful planning to keep from damaging surrounding buildings? If you look at pictures of the wreckage of WTC 7 from above, you will notice that the rubble pile small, much like something you would see from a controlled demolition. It looks as if it were planned so it didn't hurt the buildings surrounding it.
A quick note I should add is that eye witnesses of the second plane say that the plane was black, and many of them thought it was a military plane.
Firefighters aren't the only ones calling BS on 9/11. Pilots are as well. I want you all to look at this picture of the Pentagon after the "plane" crashed into it.
WTF! Some of you may not have caught on to what I'm trying to prove with this picture. A commercial plane, much like the ones said to have flown into the twin towers, flew into the Pentagon, right? That hole in the Pentagon is about... eeeeeh... 50 feet wide. The plane that hit it had a wingspan of 125 feet. So... Maybe it hit the Pentagon at an angle? Take another look at the picture. Where's the plane? Where's the luggage? If Jet fuel burned down the twin towers, where's the burning jet fuel? The only video that has ever been released to the public of this event is this one: SKIP TO 1:25
In the frame just before the explosion the nose of the "plane" appears. But can you prove that that's a plane? Start the video at 2:05 and stop watching at 3:32
That was a cruise missile. I don't need to repeat what was said in the clip so let's move on to why the government would do such a thing...
CONTROL. That's why. The government want's complete, utter control over the people of America. We've seen it before in history. History repeats itself. The government is using 9/11 and terrorism that doesn't exist to take away our guns. The government has been caught multiple times reading facebook posts with keywords. Obama is calling gun owners... EVERY gun owner, and Ron Paul supporter a terrorist. Obama has created several laws and passed many bills under executive order, which means he knows congress wouldn't vote it in. Here's something interesting: When Obama came into office he decided he was going to "help" the economy by releasing Stimulus Packages... in other words... he would print money. Congress passed it. Do you know why? They've said why. They received hundreds of emails and phone calls threatening that the economy would collapse if they voted against it. Nobody even read the document which was thousands of pages long. I don't blame them either. Obama gave them only a few hours before the vote...
I personally believe the government set up 9/11.
Sounds interesting... but there are quite a few good arguments against it...
The New World Order and the Illuminati
Spoiler:
Unlike many people would think, the Illuminati is not a fictional society that we get from movies. The Illuminati really existed. The conspiracy theory is whether or not they STILL exist.
The founder of the Illuminati was Johann Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was a German philosopher. He started "The Order of Illuminati" in 1776, a secret society opposed to superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and they were in favor of gender equality! Sounds fine and dandy doesn't it?
Well... sadly, with encouragement from the Roman Catholic Church, the Bavarian Government outlawed secret societies and the Illuminati was permanently disbanded in 1785... Or was it? Rumors began to go around that blamed the Illuminati for regrouping and starting the French Revolution.
Now, sure the beliefs of the Illuminati were great! They were in the best interests of the people f the world. However, the Illuminati had plans to reach their goals of ending the things they were opposed to, and encouraging the things they wanted, and these plans were most certainly NOT in the best interests of the people. In order to do achieve their goals, their plans included planting agents in the government, building up and owning corporations, masterminding events that would bring about new policies they wanted (for example, if they still exist, they could have masterminded 9/11!), and basically attempting to establish a New World Order. They wanted to take over the WORLD. These guys are the creators... no... the GODS of conspiracy theories. Without further ado, their agenda, and proof that they still exist!
THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE ILLUMINATI
Weishaupt explains in his memoirs how much POWER the Illuminati could hold if they were in control of the banks! You could earn interest by giving people loans that represented money that DIDN'T EXIST! (this is exactly what is going on in America today. Watch the news.) The Illuminati would have infinite money! There was even more power to be had by controlling the media, which at the time was newspapers and books. Today, they would control what movies are made, books are sold, and what the News tells us. By controlling the media they control what we think. They could get us to pass a bill for them, or start an uprising for them, without us even knowing we were influenced by a secret organization that runs the world! It's an incredible thought, that almost sounds impossible.
If something so HUGE existed, how could it possibly be kept secret? Many people over the years have come out and claimed to be former members of the Illuminati. Some of the things they say make complete sense, sound like wild stretches of the imagination, or are obvious lies that just don't make sense. The pyramid with the all-seeing eye is a very important symbol with the Illuminati. Let's take a look at the dollar bill shall we?
Hey, look! LOL it's the Illuminati symbol, on the dollar bill, LOL! Count the rows of bricks on the pyramid. 13. Thirteen colonies. After being caught a second time in Europe, people say they moved here to America, where they eventually made their new symbol, the Pyramid with the all-seeing-eye. That's not enough proof though. Sure the pyramid looks weird but come on. Illuminati symbol?
Under the pyramid it says, "Novus Ordo Seclorum". This is Latin for "Secular World Order" Ladies and Gents, the definition of "secular":
denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis.
Interesting. Isn't that one of their main beliefs? A government denoting non-religious activities. Well... denote means to draw attention to something. So they want to draw our attention to things that aren't of spiritual importance. In other words, an atheist society. This is the exact OPPOSITE of what America is supposed to be. Just look at our pledge of allegiance:
"I pledge allegiance, to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, etc.
I'm a religious person and so this means a lot to me while it may mean nothing to some of you. Anyways... moving on. Is that really enough proof? Probably, but her'es some more proof of their existence on the dollar bill.
You've probably noticed the number on the pyramid:
MDCCLXXVI
Let's put that into a Roman Numeral Converter. Hold on a sec........ AHA! http://www.onlineconversion.com/roman_n ... vanced.htm Okay... M... D... CC... mhm.... okay... convert... WHAT! 1776. That's what it says. Wait a minute. That's the date America was founded. you know what? The fact that the Illuminati and America were founded in the same year is so FRUSTRATING. Causes so many problems. But the dollar bill isn't the only proof.
So... why is the pyramid an important Illuminati symbol? It's how they keep secrets. You have the people at the bottom. They are told what to do and don't question it. They don't know what's going on above them. Then there are the people in the middle. They are told what to do by their bosses and they don't question it. They don't know what's going on above them. It goes on and on like that until you reach the top. So who's at the top? We may never know but many people believe the Rockefeller family to be at the top of it all. Go do some research about the Rockefellers. You may find some interesting stuff.
Sooo... They control the media. Any proof? Yes. You can find all sorts of subliminal messages in movies and even children's cartoons. Here are some examples:
http://dawnatilla.files.wordpress.com/2 ... inati1.jpg
Wow. Rihanna's editors really don't like her. http://www.thedecisionisyours.org/uploa ... 5_orig.jpg
http://ageoftruth.dk/wp-content/uploads ... i-jayz.jpg
A card game released in the 1990's can no longer be found anywhere. I have NO IDEA WHY. XD
Illuminati: The Card Game
This card game alone proves 9/11 is a conspiracy.
Something we didn't really cover is the fact that one of the goals of the Illuminati is to create a One World Government. I didn't really talk about this because there really isn't much on it. Well... There you have it. Not sure what I think about this one. Is the Illuminati in control of the government, the media... everything? It's a scary thought and I just don't know.
Last but not least... the testimony of a great man who was murdered for the information he released.
Aaron Russo was very good friends with one of the Rockefellers. One day he was told that a plan had been created. There would be an event that would start a war against terrorism, and it was set up by the CFR, or the Council of Foreign Relations. He had helped plan it and the goal was to set in motion events that would lead to the creation of the New World Order. Aaron Russo never spoke to him again after 9/11, and had this amazing interview with Alex Jones, before being assassinated for the information he released.
The founder of the Illuminati was Johann Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was a German philosopher. He started "The Order of Illuminati" in 1776, a secret society opposed to superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and they were in favor of gender equality! Sounds fine and dandy doesn't it?
Well... sadly, with encouragement from the Roman Catholic Church, the Bavarian Government outlawed secret societies and the Illuminati was permanently disbanded in 1785... Or was it? Rumors began to go around that blamed the Illuminati for regrouping and starting the French Revolution. Now, sure the beliefs of the Illuminati were great! They were in the best interests of the people f the world. However, the Illuminati had plans to reach their goals of ending the things they were opposed to, and encouraging the things they wanted, and these plans were most certainly NOT in the best interests of the people. In order to do achieve their goals, their plans included planting agents in the government, building up and owning corporations, masterminding events that would bring about new policies they wanted (for example, if they still exist, they could have masterminded 9/11!), and basically attempting to establish a New World Order. They wanted to take over the WORLD. These guys are the creators... no... the GODS of conspiracy theories. Without further ado, their agenda, and proof that they still exist!
THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE ILLUMINATI
Weishaupt explains in his memoirs how much POWER the Illuminati could hold if they were in control of the banks! You could earn interest by giving people loans that represented money that DIDN'T EXIST! (this is exactly what is going on in America today. Watch the news.) The Illuminati would have infinite money! There was even more power to be had by controlling the media, which at the time was newspapers and books. Today, they would control what movies are made, books are sold, and what the News tells us. By controlling the media they control what we think. They could get us to pass a bill for them, or start an uprising for them, without us even knowing we were influenced by a secret organization that runs the world! It's an incredible thought, that almost sounds impossible.
If something so HUGE existed, how could it possibly be kept secret? Many people over the years have come out and claimed to be former members of the Illuminati. Some of the things they say make complete sense, sound like wild stretches of the imagination, or are obvious lies that just don't make sense. The pyramid with the all-seeing eye is a very important symbol with the Illuminati. Let's take a look at the dollar bill shall we?
Hey, look! LOL it's the Illuminati symbol, on the dollar bill, LOL! Count the rows of bricks on the pyramid. 13. Thirteen colonies. After being caught a second time in Europe, people say they moved here to America, where they eventually made their new symbol, the Pyramid with the all-seeing-eye. That's not enough proof though. Sure the pyramid looks weird but come on. Illuminati symbol?
Under the pyramid it says, "Novus Ordo Seclorum". This is Latin for "Secular World Order" Ladies and Gents, the definition of "secular":
denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis.
Interesting. Isn't that one of their main beliefs? A government denoting non-religious activities. Well... denote means to draw attention to something. So they want to draw our attention to things that aren't of spiritual importance. In other words, an atheist society. This is the exact OPPOSITE of what America is supposed to be. Just look at our pledge of allegiance:
"I pledge allegiance, to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, etc.
I'm a religious person and so this means a lot to me while it may mean nothing to some of you. Anyways... moving on. Is that really enough proof? Probably, but her'es some more proof of their existence on the dollar bill.
You've probably noticed the number on the pyramid:
MDCCLXXVI
Let's put that into a Roman Numeral Converter. Hold on a sec........ AHA! http://www.onlineconversion.com/roman_n ... vanced.htm Okay... M... D... CC... mhm.... okay... convert... WHAT! 1776. That's what it says. Wait a minute. That's the date America was founded. you know what? The fact that the Illuminati and America were founded in the same year is so FRUSTRATING. Causes so many problems. But the dollar bill isn't the only proof.
So... why is the pyramid an important Illuminati symbol? It's how they keep secrets. You have the people at the bottom. They are told what to do and don't question it. They don't know what's going on above them. Then there are the people in the middle. They are told what to do by their bosses and they don't question it. They don't know what's going on above them. It goes on and on like that until you reach the top. So who's at the top? We may never know but many people believe the Rockefeller family to be at the top of it all. Go do some research about the Rockefellers. You may find some interesting stuff.
Sooo... They control the media. Any proof? Yes. You can find all sorts of subliminal messages in movies and even children's cartoons. Here are some examples:
http://dawnatilla.files.wordpress.com/2 ... inati1.jpg
Wow. Rihanna's editors really don't like her. http://www.thedecisionisyours.org/uploa ... 5_orig.jpg
http://ageoftruth.dk/wp-content/uploads ... i-jayz.jpg
A card game released in the 1990's can no longer be found anywhere. I have NO IDEA WHY. XD
Illuminati: The Card Game
This card game alone proves 9/11 is a conspiracy.
Something we didn't really cover is the fact that one of the goals of the Illuminati is to create a One World Government. I didn't really talk about this because there really isn't much on it. Well... There you have it. Not sure what I think about this one. Is the Illuminati in control of the government, the media... everything? It's a scary thought and I just don't know.
Last but not least... the testimony of a great man who was murdered for the information he released.
Aaron Russo was very good friends with one of the Rockefellers. One day he was told that a plan had been created. There would be an event that would start a war against terrorism, and it was set up by the CFR, or the Council of Foreign Relations. He had helped plan it and the goal was to set in motion events that would lead to the creation of the New World Order. Aaron Russo never spoke to him again after 9/11, and had this amazing interview with Alex Jones, before being assassinated for the information he released.
Come on people. Don't be retarded.
Reptilian Secret Agents
Spoiler:
NO. OBAMA AND HIS BODYGUARDS ARE NOT REPTILES FROM ANOTHER PLANET.
Fake Moon Landings
Spoiler:
All the evidence supporting this sucks. GTFO.
