a battle to end all battles

[Keon]

Gravy particle; those lumps in the gravy that carry the gravy field.

[cats]

Higgs Doze-on Particle: Responsible for basically all napping.

[Ivan2006]

Is this still about space battles?
Or about troll-physics-particles?

[Avenger_7]

One last post that's offtopic here...

Mass Effect does a great job of obeying physics. Eezo isn't actually an element per se, but a substance that affects space around it in a similar manner to the way a magnetic field works. The important thing is that this is theoretically possible according to the laws of physics insofar as we understand them.

Star Wars, on the other hand, decides to state such ridiculous numbers that a single shot from a Star Destroyer should be able to wipe out all life on a planet. Yet somehow, orbital strikes require about 12 of those beams to destroy an unshielded target.

[fr0stbyte124]

I've never read that a single star destroyer can kill life on a planet. I have arguments that a full fleet would be more cost effective at planetary annihilation than the death star, albeit less flashy, but nothing about single ship pulling it off. Unless you are thinking of one of those ridiculous giant star destroyers, in which case I have no idea.

[Avenger_7]

I'm referring to the stated energy output of a turbolaser, which is much higher than the impact of the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs.

[fr0stbyte124]

I can't find any numbers at all for turbolasers, except that they can one-shot slow moving ships. I did see a reference to the continuous operational power of the reactor onboard an Executor class as matching the output of our sun.

At that point I am pretty satisfied calling shenanagins on these numbers, unless there is some really good excuse in-universe to justify them.

[҉]

Star Wars, on the other hand, decides to state such ridiculous numbers that a single shot from a Star Destroyer should be able to wipe out all life on a planet. Yet somehow, orbital strikes require about 12 of those beams to destroy an unshielded target.

...No. It takes an entire fleet to effectively bombard a planet. A single Star Destroyer could kill a city fairly quickly, but it'd take dozens to cleanse a planet completely. Now, there are a few Star Destroyers, like the Eclipse, that carry a single giant superlaser that could do something like that, but the Eclipse was 17 kilometers long. A normal Imperial-class is 1.6.

I can't find any numbers at all for turbolasers, except that they can one-shot slow moving ships. I did see a reference to the continuous operational power of the reactor onboard an Executor class as matching the output of our sun.

At that point I am pretty satisfied calling shenanagins on these numbers, unless there is some really good excuse in-universe to justify them.

Executor-class is the largest battleship in all of Star Wars. That doesn't surprise me terribly. Hypermatter reactors are pretty extreme, and Executor's is about a kilometer across, IIRC.

[fr0stbyte124]

A sun, though? As in, the thing which illuminates our entire planet with only radial emissions from 93 million miles away? As in, the equivalent of 4 million tons of antimatter annihilation per second?

That's just crazy, even for Star Wars.

[҉]

A sun, though? As in, the thing which illuminates our entire planet with only radial emissions from 93 million miles away? As in, the equivalent of 4 million tons of antimatter annihilation per second?

That's just crazy, even for Star Wars.

I dunno. I haven't seen the thing that said it gave off as much power as a star, but like I said it wouldn't really surprise me. Jumping a ship that large to hyperspace takes a huge amount of power. I'll do some research.

EDIT: Executor's reactor peaks at 7.73 x 10^26 watts. How much energy does the sun produce? Wikipedia has failed me.

[fr0stbyte124]

A sun, though? As in, the thing which illuminates our entire planet with only radial emissions from 93 million miles away? As in, the equivalent of 4 million tons of antimatter annihilation per second?

That's just crazy, even for Star Wars.

I dunno. I haven't seen the thing that said it gave off as much power as a star, but like I said it wouldn't really surprise me. Jumping a ship that large to hyperspace takes a huge amount of power. I'll do some research.

EDIT: Executor's reactor peaks at 7.73 x 10^26 watts. How much energy does the sun produce? Wikipedia has failed me.

...About half that.

[Avenger_7]

As I tried to point out to you on the old forum, the numbers given for Star Wars are completely out of whack with what the weapons actually do. That's the same point I was trying to make there.

IIRC, I said something about 40k Lance weapons being able to turn a city into a crater and you responded that SW weapons were stronger because of the energy output, which is wrong or an ISD would be able to one-shot a planet.

EDIT: Found the energy of a Heavy Laser. Not even a turbolaser.

200 gigatons (4.3x10^23 J) is the ammount of energy scientists figure was released by the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. It is equivalent to the rest energy of 3.5 million Kg(via e=mc^2).

Edit2: and that was just me stating how ridiculous that level of power was.

[Keon]

Let's just let Star Wars quit while it's ahead and say that it's completely based on RoC, not reality.

[blockman42]

As I tried to point out to you on the old forum, the numbers given for Star Wars are completely out of whack with what the weapons actually do. That's the same point I was trying to make there.

IIRC, I said something about 40k Lance weapons being able to turn a city into a crater and you responded that SW weapons were stronger because of the energy output, which is wrong or an ISD would be able to one-shot a planet.

EDIT: Found the energy of a Heavy Laser. Not even a turbolaser.

200 gigatons (4.3x10^23 J) is the ammount of energy scientists figure was released by the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. It is equivalent to the rest energy of 3.5 million Kg(via e=mc^2).

Edit2: and that was just me stating how ridiculous that level of power was.

Its over 9000!

[҉]

As I tried to point out to you on the old forum, the numbers given for Star Wars are completely out of whack with what the weapons actually do. That's the same point I was trying to make there.

IIRC, I said something about 40k Lance weapons being able to turn a city into a crater and you responded that SW weapons were stronger because of the energy output, which is wrong or an ISD would be able to one-shot a planet.

EDIT: Found the energy of a Heavy Laser. Not even a turbolaser.

200 gigatons (4.3x10^23 J) is the ammount of energy scientists figure was released by the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. It is equivalent to the rest energy of 3.5 million Kg(via e=mc^2).

Edit2: and that was just me stating how ridiculous that level of power was.

Can you give me a link to the weapon powers, please? I haven't been able to find them on Wookieepedia. Remember that 7.73 x 10^26 is the power for the entire ship, not for a weapon.