Halp.

[Prototype]

My one gripe about SW, is they call it a lightsaber, but its actually a plasma blade, apparently, that just annoys me for some weird reason. But I would still want one.

But ST definitely tries to be more realistic than SW,

[Ivan2006]

I guess we just outnumbered LJS.

[҉]

The Star Trek FTL is the most realistic one of all FTL-engines, in fact, the theoretical Alcubierre Drive was inspired by Star Trek Warp Drives.
About shields, transporters and phasers I´m not sure, but Phasers seem quite realistic considering they are testing similar tech right now, just without a visible beam.
And you can´t say teleporters or shields wouldn´t theoreticallly be possible.

FTL is not possible. No FTL engine is realistic. That said, the skip drives of the Old Man's War series do a better job of pretending. Teleportation is not possible. Phasers are not possible, either, not in the way Star Trek uses them.

I'm aware of the count of Venators deployed at Coruscant, or rather, the 'supposed' count. The whole nixed up scale of things in Star Wars is extraordinary. The whole reason the Empire has upwards of 25k km long Star Destroyers is to patrol millions of systems, yet how do you propose they even accomplished that with so few ships and so many planets? Likewise, in the waning days of the Old Republic, 'thousands' of Venators defending one (1) world? How many campaigns did they cripple by drawing that many ships back, do you figure? Especially given that even three is considered a fleet in its own regard.

Most of the time, they didn't. Neither the Empire nor the Old Republic really had the forces to maintain the territory they theoretically controlled, which was a major factor in both their downfalls. The Republic brought every ship to Coruscant that it possibly could, because they'd captured the Supreme Chancellor and were launching ground troops into the capital city. In this case, that meant the entire Open Circle Armada, which represented something like a fifth of the entire Republic Navy. A 'fleet', according to Wookieepedia, meant between 100 and 300 warships plus support units. An 'armada' meant between 1 and 5 thousand. A group of only three warships would be a Section.

EVERYTHING in the Star Trek series [Regarding ships] is realistic.

Including the FTL, shields, teleporters, and phasers, right?

I've always thought the biggest difference between SW and ST was that the latter actually tried to explain the principles of how its devices functioned. SW only accomplishes that through the Expanded Universe, and even then to a much lesser extent.

Neither one is realistic. The difference is that Star Wars doesn't pretend to be. Given that the Force is a pretty critical part of the universe, questions about specific technology are kinda silly. That's certainly not to say that I don't ask them, but it does mean that you have to work on your suspension of disbelief a little.

[Iv121]

Well eventually introducing logic into the way your universe works is never bad ... Even when it comes to surreal things such as "Magic" you can explain how things work by taking a basis (for example in my world all magic comes from the inner energy that fuels our bodies - our souls) and building on it the rest of the theory ( Humans with the talent to control their inner energy are called "Mages", they use their power to manipulate the laws of physics in various ways. For example surrounding water with an energetic field and moving it in that field is called water magic. It is possible to trap souls in magical stones and use them to power artefacts, the art of enchanting used long ago by the great mages of old times) . While that is definitely not realistic it adds some "sense" to it and gives it a feeling of a "true" universe. This also allows to expand the canon easily by both the creator and maybe third parties who want to make a non-canon expansion based on this universe. In my opinion this contributes to realism.

[҉]

And the Force has all of that, right? So what's you point?

[Avenger_7]

No, 40k is silly, given that the Imperium has more 20km ships than the Empire had ships, period. And psychic powers and daemons and all that jazz. But that's why we love it

[҉]

No, 40k is silly, given that the Imperium has more 20km ships than the Empire had ships, period. And psychic powers and daemons and all that jazz. But that's why we love it

40K was explicitly designed to be as OP as possible compared to any other science fiction series. It's in a class all by itself.

[Iv121]

And the Force has all of that, right? So what's you point?

The problem in this is that the force does not power starships and the technological bit of star wars is a bit poorly explained (maybe the details will be boring but having some sort of basis will always be nice)

[Chairman_Tiel]

I'm aware of the count of Venators deployed at Coruscant, or rather, the 'supposed' count. The whole nixed up scale of things in Star Wars is extraordinary. The whole reason the Empire has upwards of 25k km long Star Destroyers is to patrol millions of systems, yet how do you propose they even accomplished that with so few ships and so many planets? Likewise, in the waning days of the Old Republic, 'thousands' of Venators defending one (1) world? How many campaigns did they cripple by drawing that many ships back, do you figure? Especially given that even three is considered a fleet in its own regard.

Most of the time, they didn't. Neither the Empire nor the Old Republic really had the forces to maintain the territory they theoretically controlled, which was a major factor in both their downfalls. The Republic brought every ship to Coruscant that it possibly could, because they'd captured the Supreme Chancellor and were launching ground troops into the capital city. In this case, that meant the entire Open Circle Armada, which represented something like a fifth of the entire Republic Navy. A 'fleet', according to Wookieepedia, meant between 100 and 300 warships plus support units. An 'armada' meant between 1 and 5 thousand. A group of only three warships would be a Section.

A 'fleet', according to Clone Wars, is three Venators and perhaps one or two support ships. Given that it's superseded any previous canon so far, I'm willing to take the word of that above some anonymous editor on wookiepedia.

[҉]

I'm aware of the count of Venators deployed at Coruscant, or rather, the 'supposed' count. The whole nixed up scale of things in Star Wars is extraordinary. The whole reason the Empire has upwards of 25k km long Star Destroyers is to patrol millions of systems, yet how do you propose they even accomplished that with so few ships and so many planets? Likewise, in the waning days of the Old Republic, 'thousands' of Venators defending one (1) world? How many campaigns did they cripple by drawing that many ships back, do you figure? Especially given that even three is considered a fleet in its own regard.

Most of the time, they didn't. Neither the Empire nor the Old Republic really had the forces to maintain the territory they theoretically controlled, which was a major factor in both their downfalls. The Republic brought every ship to Coruscant that it possibly could, because they'd captured the Supreme Chancellor and were launching ground troops into the capital city. In this case, that meant the entire Open Circle Armada, which represented something like a fifth of the entire Republic Navy. A 'fleet', according to Wookieepedia, meant between 100 and 300 warships plus support units. An 'armada' meant between 1 and 5 thousand. A group of only three warships would be a Section.

A 'fleet', according to Clone Wars, is three Venators and perhaps one or two support ships. Given that it's superseded any previous canon so far, I'm willing to take the word of that above some anonymous editor on wookiepedia.

Got a source for that?

[Crash Override]

MY OPINION.

Spoiler:

No,Star Trek is realistic and period.

Look,anyone here already read the Star Trek Federation Officer Manual?

The teleporter could be done,the big "blue eye" in the front of the enterprise is a gravitonal reppler to send microparticles away.

The photon torpedoes are realistic,the Phaser is just a fancy name for advanced laser. When the series begin,they only have nuclear missiles and rockets.. A Star trek setting would be the most common human evolution.

Each ship of the federation is crewed by no more than 10.000 people
Each ship is a city so they dont have OVER NINE THOUSAND of then,because you cant recruit 10.000 people with a universitary formation.
Enginners,Medics,Scientists.

Just defending my opinion about star trek,i love it.

[҉]

MY OPINION.

Spoiler:

No,Star Trek is realistic and period.

Look,anyone here already read the Star Trek Federation Officer Manual?

The teleporter could be done,the big "blue eye" in the front of the enterprise is a gravitonal reppler to send microparticles away.

The photon torpedoes are realistic,the Phaser is just a fancy name for advanced laser. When the series begin,they only have nuclear missiles and rockets.. A Star trek setting would be the most common human evolution.

Each ship of the federation is crewed by no more than 10.000 people
Each ship is a city so they dont have OVER NINE THOUSAND of then,because you cant recruit 10.000 people with a universitary formation.
Enginners,Medics,Scientists.

Just defending my opinion about star trek,i love it.

I like it too, but not enough to try to claim it's realistic. You can't say that phasers are just advanced lasers because they don't behave at all similarly to lasers. That's why they're called 'phasers'. They were originally supposed to be called 'lasers', but even in the 60s people understood that lasers can't do stuff like that, so they called them something else. Teleportation is impossible. However much we might wish it weren't, it cannot be done. I can't believe I'm actually having to say that. It would never have even occurred to me that anyone would try to argue that FTL and teleportation and magic weapons were realistic. Understanding that it's not possible doesn't decrease my enjoyment of science fiction, and it certainly decreases my chances of getting laughed out of a major scientific institution. Enjoy the stories, and don't try to make them something that they are not and do not try to be. There are plenty of science fiction series out there that genuinely are realistic and possible, but Star Trek, Star Wars, Halo, Old Man's War, and the like are not among them.

[Chairman_Tiel]

Got a source for that?

Certainly. Watch any of the space-oriented episodes and you'll see everyone referring to a group of three Venators as such. For instance, when Plo Koon's 'Fleet' of three Venators went missing due to the Malevolence.

[Crash Override]

Ok.

[Avenger_7]

Quantum Teleportation, LJS. It is possible, just like it's possible to bend space-time to travel faster than light.