Aircraft Carriers?
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1. Double post
2. "An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the atmosphere of a planet" -Wikipedia. This does not apply to space fighters.
3. Futurecraft isn't exclusively a space mod. It covers many fields.
Side note on boats and the long dev phase:
I'm a supporter of a long development phase in FC. A server starts out in the equivalent of the stone age and works its way up to a space-faring civilization. This dev phase not only serves as a tutorial period for players, but also allows organized governments to form and the evolution of infrastructure. Sea ships would be an important part of this as civilization grows and explores a planet's surface. They would also serve to ferry resources across oceans and move NPCs from place to place.
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2. "An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the atmosphere of a planet" -Wikipedia. This does not apply to space fighters.
3. Futurecraft isn't exclusively a space mod. It covers many fields.
Side note on boats and the long dev phase:
I'm a supporter of a long development phase in FC. A server starts out in the equivalent of the stone age and works its way up to a space-faring civilization. This dev phase not only serves as a tutorial period for players, but also allows organized governments to form and the evolution of infrastructure. Sea ships would be an important part of this as civilization grows and explores a planet's surface. They would also serve to ferry resources across oceans and move NPCs from place to place.
E: This was suppose to be up there.
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Re: Aircraft Carriers?
Maybe aircraft carriers can be part of a late update, but FC is all about space.catsonmeth wrote:1. Double post
2. "An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the atmosphere of a planet" -Wikipedia. This does not apply to space fighters.
3. Futurecraft isn't exclusively a space mod. It covers many fields.
Side note on boats and the long dev phase:
I'm a supporter of a long development phase in FC. A server starts out in the equivalent of the stone age and works its way up to a space-faring civilization. This dev phase not only serves as a tutorial period for players, but also allows organized governments to form and the evolution of infrastructure. Sea ships would be an important part of this as civilization grows and explores a planet's surface. They would also serve to ferry resources across oceans and move NPCs from place to place.
E: This was suppose to be up there.
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I have mixed thoughts on the long dev idea. On the one side, it would be interesting to see, but on the other this mod is already going to be huge, and I'm not really keen on spending a bunch of time on what will essentially be stepping stones.
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It's a mod named Futurecraft. People will tech hard until they get to the future. There is no point in anything but future.fr0stbyte124 wrote:I have mixed thoughts on the long dev idea. On the one side, it would be interesting to see, but on the other this mod is already going to be huge, and I'm not really keen on spending a bunch of time on what will essentially be stepping stones.
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Again catsonmeth you are going too ambitious, you might just end up like those guys building a parallel universe ... Planetary combat is already over the top as I said countless times - we simply lack the resources to support it. Either this or space combat - up to you.
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It's not up to cats.Iv121 wrote:Again catsonmeth you are going too ambitious, you might just end up like those guys building a parallel universe ... Planetary combat is already over the top as I said countless times - we simply lack the resources to support it. Either this or space combat - up to you.
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The plan was always to augment normal minecraft tech progression to the point where SPESS! being the next step would feel natural. Same with 32x texturepacks.
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Look, it took 3000 years or so from us to go from minecraft's building tech (Pyramids, raw iron, etc) to ours right now. We don't even have jump drives. How do you propose to do that in a way that it isn't boring to the player?Tiel wrote:The plan was always to augment normal minecraft tech progression to the point where SPESS! being the next step would feel natural. Same with 32x texturepacks.
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Ask Mackeroth.
I'm just parroting the designs from the original plan for Futurecraft.
I'm just parroting the designs from the original plan for Futurecraft.
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The original plan ... that thing on the old forums ? Its outdated like hell and I'll tell you the truth it doesn't sound as good as standard futurecraft either .
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Re: Aircraft Carriers?
I guess now its a matter of can we make spaceships fly, and can we reduce lag to a minimum, everything else is secondary.
And for the record, we probably shouldn't bother with seafaring aircraft carriers, because skyfaring/spacefaring aircraft carriers are >9000x cooler.
Plus water dynamics is a b*tch, look at the zeppelin mod, and how well submarines work, or more importantly, how they don't.
And for the record, we probably shouldn't bother with seafaring aircraft carriers, because skyfaring/spacefaring aircraft carriers are >9000x cooler.
Plus water dynamics is a b*tch, look at the zeppelin mod, and how well submarines work, or more importantly, how they don't.
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We're going to hit the exact same problem because ships interactions are done through an entity. If you go underwater, you are physically in the water. If we can make being under water something abstract like we could for "is there air or not?" then we might have a shot, but the vanilla way won't cut it.
Also content may be secondary in priority to engine work, but the two are mostly unrelated now that we have a pretty good idea of the framework it'll work within.
Also content may be secondary in priority to engine work, but the two are mostly unrelated now that we have a pretty good idea of the framework it'll work within.
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@fr0st: There just needs to be enough material for, maybe, a week. That'll be enough time for servers to get on their feet and (I think) not too much strain on you and the other devs.
@Keon: There's plenty of reason for it, as I stated.
@Iv: It just wouldn't make sense to neglect planetary assault and defense. If we do, we might as well get rid of planets entirely. I don't think anyone wants that.
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@Keon: Well, considering that you could make a great pyramid in less than a day if you had adequate materials...
Submarines wouldn't really be a large part of FC if they were included. Floating ships could be, and they don't have to go much under the surface, avoiding the need for special water thing.
@Keon: There's plenty of reason for it, as I stated.
@Iv: It just wouldn't make sense to neglect planetary assault and defense. If we do, we might as well get rid of planets entirely. I don't think anyone wants that.
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@Keon: Well, considering that you could make a great pyramid in less than a day if you had adequate materials...
Submarines wouldn't really be a large part of FC if they were included. Floating ships could be, and they don't have to go much under the surface, avoiding the need for special water thing.
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