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Re: Keon's I was bored so I want something thread

Post by joykler » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:55 am

like my wurm ship it smashes a hole in a single place in the hull so the soldiers can get in

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Post by Iv121 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:02 am

They might then die from the same lack of oxygen :tongue: (You need an airlock)
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Post by fr0stbyte124 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:03 am

Yeah the physical damage won't be random. Ship HP is used to calculate when damage will take place, and the magnitude of the destruction. That way, you won't be able to, say, hide behind a 6m hull when you are only a light frigate class. The combat engine will treat your durability the same as any other light frigate with the same stats. Seems the only fair way to do it when a ship can look like anything.

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"Is that air I am breathing" is such a simple check, I foresee no issues with adding that mechanic. You could mitigate damage by having self-sealing bulkheads. Also, we can probably make artificial gravity something which can be damaged or malfunction, as well.

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Post by joykler » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:32 am

my soldiers wouldnt die because the door would only open if there is a hole made
my ships would still have the nose in the hole so no air could get out

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Post by  ҉  » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:53 am

joykler wrote:my soldiers wouldnt die because the door would only open if there is a hole made
my ships would still have the nose in the hole so no air could get out
There's no way that would work. You can't form an airtight seal just by ramming the ship's nose in. You might be able to deploy military robots or possibly spacetroopers that way, but no normal soldier would survive that.
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Post by Chairman_Tiel » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:57 am

You mean you actually understood that?
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Post by fr0stbyte124 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:09 pm

Last Jedi is now joykler's official interpreter.

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Post by  ҉  » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:11 pm

Of course I understood it. He has terrible grammar, but he's still perfectly clear. You can't understand him?
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Post by fr0stbyte124 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:19 pm

Might as well have been in Russian for all I got out of it...

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Post by Ivan2006 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:20 pm

Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:Of course I understood it. He has terrible grammar, but he's still perfectly clear. You can't understand him?
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Post by joykler » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:49 pm

thanks
and i'm fine with the not working of my
ships spacetroopers would also be fine

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Post by cats » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:18 pm

I've never liked the idea of ship HP. Maybe a more natural balance system could be used that depends upon the total mass of the ship. More armor=more massive ship, heavier ship requires a more powerful engine, which requires a larger, more efficient reactor.
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Post by Iv121 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Yea, that's what I detailed back on the old forum: http://futurecraft.forumotion.com/t436-armor-plating
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Post by Keon » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:51 pm

I can understand joykler just fine.
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Re: Keon's I was bored so I want something thread

Post by joykler » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:29 pm

i think armor would be nice having holes in the hull
just in time escaping with holes in your defence

i have thought of a way but its a bit hard to explain because its build in diffrent parts so look

have you seen the redpower mod with covers that are flat perfectly in all the diffrent colors and textures
they can be used to cover up redstone while not requiring an extra block they have an collision box but two can fit in the same block

i think you could use something like that
a single pain has an hp of say 100
you have already discussed that if each block has hp for itself you get borgships
but this block has life on its own buttt if its dealed damage and it doesnt destroy it instantly it diverts 70 % percent of the damage to a 3x3 ring around it and to the inside it doesnt matter how much layers you have each 3x3 layer damage behind the hit plate would receive 70 % percent damage.
the real block against the pane would be destroyd at the same moment that the pane is destroyd
i have made an demonstration
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so i have already told u how it would work but to make it visual here are some pictures with explanation

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the wool and stone blocks present damaged and normal panes

simpel shot on flat surface works like this with my idea
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simpel shot on flat surface multiple layers walls [borg effect]
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all walls behind the hit wall get damage [maybe you could have an limit like 10 blocks behind the hit block it resets but that is up to you]

you could also have highdamage cannons
if a shot deals damage way more damage then the hp left on a pane [ a pane has 20 left and you hit it with 80]
there wil be a piercing shot [a single block wil be desinegrated and only the ones directly behind it get damage]
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it doesnt only work on flat surfaces it has to work in a 3x3 area what the form of the hit vessel is doesnt matter
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if multiple shots are taken on the same time it would work like this
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this was the demonstration
this way of having hp would be way more fun
there could be diffrent kinds of armor like heavy to light
and because there seperate of eachother you could plate key components heavier then things you dont really need
you could make it in a way that it counts the weight of the total armor and uses that to calculate the amount of engines needed

borg like ships are still possible but not as good because all the layers would be constantly receiving damage + you need more engine power
and because there seperate blocks someone needs to place them one by one making it very irritating to place them

but i have thought of an idea to place it in large amounts but furst i want to hear what you think of it

and again sorry for my grammar.
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