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Well, HOTS is out

Post by Keon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:29 pm

Anybody played it? If so, how is it?
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:31 pm

What's "HOTS", and what does it have to with my cat please, elaborate.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Keon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:41 pm

Heart of the Swarm, the SCII expansion.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by CommanderKobialka » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:55 pm

starcraft game right? tried starcraft 2 and to be honest..... i hated it.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Vinyl » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:03 pm

Really? Already? I'll have to go digging for my SCII then...

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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by hyperlite » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:40 pm

I like SCII, but if I wanted to buy it now, with HOTS, it would cost me $70. $30 for game and $40 for expansion.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:09 pm

hyperlite wrote:I like SCII, but if I wanted to buy it now, with HOTS, it would cost me $70. $30 for game and $40 for expansion.
Activion's influence at work.

edit: ended up getting it, brother's apparently an SC fan and we split the cost 50/50.

40 bucks for an expansion is highway robbery though xP
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by  ҉  » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:39 pm

Tiel Attentus wrote:
hyperlite wrote:I like SCII, but if I wanted to buy it now, with HOTS, it would cost me $70. $30 for game and $40 for expansion.
Activion's influence at work.

edit: ended up getting it, brother's apparently an SC fan and we split the cost 50/50.

40 bucks for an expansion is highway robbery though xP
My understanding is that it's as much of a game as Wings of Liberty was. That was part 1, this is part 2, and Legacy of the Void is part 3.

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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:55 pm

WoL was a completely new engine with new units and new everything. HotS just adds new levels, a new story, and a paltry amount of new units to the existing selection. Basically the MW2 --> MW3 relationship; it's an expansion by any other name but it'd be a cold day in hell before anyone calls it that.

Well, at least it isn't 60 bucks, although I bet if Activision had more staying power within their relationship with Blizzard it would've.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Vinyl » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:26 pm

Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:Vinyl: Your sig is getting out of my hand again. xD
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by  ҉  » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:29 pm

Tiel Attentus wrote:WoL was a completely new engine with new units and new everything. HotS just adds new levels, a new story, and a paltry amount of new units to the existing selection. Basically the MW2 --> MW3 relationship; it's an expansion by any other name but it'd be a cold day in hell before anyone calls it that.

Well, at least it isn't 60 bucks, although I bet if Activision had more staying power within their relationship with Blizzard it would've.
I suppose. WoL is different only because it came first, though. HotS has as much stuff; it's just not new anymore. I guess that's what an expansion is, but the line seems a bit blurry.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:35 pm

Anyway, you're looking at it logically. Look at it from a customer from the original Starcraft's perspective. The previous title had all 3 campaigns with just as much content, if not more, per story as the current offerings, and Blizzard managed to fit it all into one game.

This whole "we need to split the game into three parts in order to flesh each out" is complete hogwash - it's about money, because they're getting close to full retail price three times this way as opposed to just once in the traditional method.

Anyway, the game's already downloading now so I'm being something of a hypocrite at the moment, but I can't say I approve of Blizzard's new 'Activision enhanced' marketing principles.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by  ҉  » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:44 pm

Tiel Attentus wrote:Anyway, you're looking at it logically.
I do have a tendency to do that. xD But yeah, I get where you're coming from. I have WoL but never played it much, so I'd be much more likely to get the original StarCraft than HotS. $60 in general always struck me as a bit much for a video game. I know that that's the norm these days, but it's a fair bit of money if I'm not going to play the game for months, which usually I don't.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Keon » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:40 pm

Well, they design a base system that can run these, and have the modding power to make campaigns like this with relative ease for 60 bucks, then they charge 40 bucks for some new units and a campaign. Modders could do as much. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if "HOTS campaign in WoL" comes out.
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Re: Well, HOTS is out

Post by Pat22 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:13 am

I'm watching a playthrough of it on Jesse Cox's channel. He's only 9 missions in and I can already see that i chose the right option in not buying the game. There are lots of problems with the lore and how they characters act in the game. It's basically Blizzard breaking their own canon.

Stuff like "oh noes we haz zerglings trapped in some caves, let's go save them" is completely wrong. Zerg do not save one another, they simply let the others die and breed more zerg to make up for the loss.
Then there's the "scouts report X". Since when do zerg have scouts? Since when do zerg even report anything? They're mindless beasts that serve only to execute their Queen's bidding and be her eyes and ears in a quite literal fashion.

Abathur, the zerg evolution guy, also appears to be a massive ripoff of Mordin from mass effect.
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