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A question about time
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:54 pm
by Archduke Daynel, PhD
I have a question regarding the time of the Futurecraft RP universe.
Have we set it in/around any certain year?
As far as I'm concerned, it's just "The Future", but it would be kinda nice to know if it's around the 25th or 79th century, right?
Re: A question about time
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:02 pm
by ҉
It seems to vary greatly between different roleplays.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:07 pm
by cats
It would be nice to have a timeline. I was thinking maybe half a millennium from now for most RPs.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:40 pm
by Chairman_Tiel
Maybe 6th century or something.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:28 pm
by Professor Fenway
Given the level of some technologies, I would say 2350 or so. Give or take 20.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:01 am
by Archduke Daynel, PhD
Professor Fenway wrote:Given the level of some technologies, I would say 2350 or so. Give or take 20.
So how about we say about 25th century then?
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:31 am
by Iv121
Too far, I like Fen's estimate, maybe closer because stuff we will use would be much closer to our real world than what we'll have in 500 years, even in 300. I'd put it around 2200, and with the speed our technology develops nowdays 2100-2150 is not such an unreal estimate. Just have a look how far we got in the 20th century and the technological boom of the 21st .
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:18 pm
by Archduke Daynel, PhD
Everyone ok with FC being one century in the future? Ok good, thread can be locked.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:28 pm
by ҉
Acceleration of technological advancement is all well and good, but there's still a minimum amount of time required to set up a colony planet, and a century from now isn't gonna cut it. Honestly, I think 500 years isn't that much, given that the colonies aren't barely civilized frontier worlds, either. If we're talking not only about developing technology to the extent that it will have to be but also setting up cities and trade and all the things an interstellar civilization would require, I'd say we're looking at 500-1000 years at the very least.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:44 pm
by Iv121
Not that much ? In 500 years we went from sword wielding rock throwing barbarians to gun wielding controller throwing civilization ! I believe we will need no more than 200 years to reach space. And establishing colonies is not that hard, we had a whole country built in 50 years from the desert.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:59 pm
by ҉
Iv121 wrote:Not that much ? In 500 years we went from sword wielding rock throwing barbarians to gun wielding controller throwing civilization ! I believe we will need no more than 200 years to reach space. And establishing colonies is not that hard, we had a whole country built in 50 years from the desert.
Iv, your country has been settled for thousands of years. Five hundred years ago, it was 1613, and the primary infantry weapon was the matchlock musket. William Shakespeare had already written many of his plays, and the Americas were in the early stages of European colonization. Now, five hundred years later, the Americas are civilized, other than some parts of South America, where people are still mostly naked and hunting wild pigs with fire-sharpened sticks. Colonizing an entire planet would take a very long time indeed, and even if we could start today I think it's unlikely that we would have an interstellar empire by 2500.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:32 pm
by Chairman_Tiel
That's why I say 6th century, because it would 1) explain why earth is no longer a factor in the story, and 2) give a near unlimited amount of time for interstellar empires to have developed.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:46 pm
by Prototype
I say it should be set in a long time ago in a galaxy far away
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:53 pm
by Iv121
Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:Iv121 wrote:Not that much ? In 500 years we went from sword wielding rock throwing barbarians to gun wielding controller throwing civilization ! I believe we will need no more than 200 years to reach space. And establishing colonies is not that hard, we had a whole country built in 50 years from the desert.
Iv, your country has been settled for thousands of years. Five hundred years ago, it was 1613, and the primary infantry weapon was the matchlock musket. William Shakespeare had already written many of his plays, and the Americas were in the early stages of European colonization. Now, five hundred years later, the Americas are civilized, other than some parts of South America, where people are still mostly naked and hunting wild pigs with fire-sharpened sticks. Colonizing an entire planet would take a very long time indeed, and even if we could start today I think it's unlikely that we would have an interstellar empire by 2500.
To be exact it would be 1513, how much did you get on your math exams ? And yea while gunpowder existed in those years it was an early development.
To let you know a bit about the history of my country it was indeed settled for thousands of years by camels and their owners who changed over the years (

) but if we were at the state this country was back then we would be one of the most undeveloped third world countries in the world. Luckily enough we spent our time building infrastructure and develop our country to make it one of the most technologically advanced. I mean my town here is surrounded by approximately 250,000 Arabs who live in the villages around us. They only got electricity in around 1968 when the country began to build Jewish settlements over here. If you really want to you can not only build a colony in 50 years but a whole country, and with the manpower and resources available to the colonists of 2200 it will be a piece of cake to colonize a few of the surrounding systems. Humans are capable of amazing stuff when they want to.
Re: A question about time
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:43 pm
by ҉
Iv121 wrote:Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:Iv121 wrote:Not that much ? In 500 years we went from sword wielding rock throwing barbarians to gun wielding controller throwing civilization ! I believe we will need no more than 200 years to reach space. And establishing colonies is not that hard, we had a whole country built in 50 years from the desert.
Iv, your country has been settled for thousands of years. Five hundred years ago, it was 1613, and the primary infantry weapon was the matchlock musket. William Shakespeare had already written many of his plays, and the Americas were in the early stages of European colonization. Now, five hundred years later, the Americas are civilized, other than some parts of South America, where people are still mostly naked and hunting wild pigs with fire-sharpened sticks. Colonizing an entire planet would take a very long time indeed, and even if we could start today I think it's unlikely that we would have an interstellar empire by 2500.
To be exact it would be 1513, how much did you get on your math exams ? And yea while gunpowder existed in those years it was an early development.
To let you know a bit about the history of my country it was indeed settled for thousands of years by camels and their owners who changed over the years (

) but if we were at the state this country was back then we would be one of the most undeveloped third world countries in the world. Luckily enough we spent our time building infrastructure and develop our country to make it one of the most technologically advanced. I mean my town here is surrounded by approximately 250,000 Arabs who live in the villages around us. They only got electricity in around 1968 when the country began to build Jewish settlements over here. If you really want to you can not only build a colony in 50 years but a whole country, and with the manpower and resources available to the colonists of 2200 it will be a piece of cake to colonize a few of the surrounding systems. Humans are capable of amazing stuff when they want to.
Dammit. I screwed up '1600s' and '16th century'.

I was so happy with that post. It actually still applies, though - matchlock weapons were introduced in the 1440s. What I'm saying is that you did not go from uninhabited wasteland to modern civilization in 50 years. Building an entire colony is a lot more work than building a country - again, look at how long it took most of America to get up to the standard of civilization they had in Britain at the time. The eastern coast was there by the late sixteen hundreds/early seventeen hundreds, two hundred years after the first explorers arrived, but most of the Colonies were sparsely populated backwoods frontier territory, and they'd barely made it inland. Colonizing an entire planet would be even more challenging. Say we start exploring other planets in 2200 (I think it's highly unlikely that it would be any time much before that). Perhaps fifty to a hundred years after the planets are first explored, you'd have the first colonists. They would be a very small group of people, and they wouldn't do all that much. Thirty or forty years later, you'd have a single small city where the ships landed, and a meager population of isolated settlers and villages scattered a few kilometers around it. Once they were settled, more colonists would start arriving, slowly at first but in increasing numbers. A hundred years or so later, you'll have a single large, capital city that is still probably the primary spaceport, and a few dozen smaller cities scattered around the continent, with the normal villages and small settlements around them. Now, this theoretical planet is still almost certainly a mostly forgotten frontier world, especially if this sort of progress is being repeated on many other planets. By this time it's maybe between 2350 and 2400. Eventually, the other continents will be settled, and once there are people around all or most of the planet it can start to be though of as something besides a backwater. The planet will be lucky if it has easily developed resources, like forests to be logged, as the search for new territory to exploit will drive the settlers to new continents, and trade in its wood or whatever will encourage ships to come by. Eventually, maybe around 2500 or 2550, the planet will have several large cities, a space station, and a population of 500 million or so. By this point, it is a more or less complete world, which I believe is the state we're trying to get to.