Once More, With Feeling

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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Vinyl » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:14 pm

A 1.7km is not a dreadnought, it's, like, a flippin' titan m8
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Professor Fenway » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:24 pm

Yeah, nobody else has 1.7 km ships. Hell, Vishnu took a long time and is about that size, a bit bigger.

1.7km battlecarrier CANNOT land on a planet. That is definitely dreadnought size. And remember the whole "doesn't cancel out gravity?" If you landed on its tail, you've got the planets gravity and the ship gravity to contend with; artificial gravity doesn't work so close.

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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Error » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:43 pm

1.7 klicks in length is an oversized battleship. Seriously. While it can't land (fine), it's nowhere near dreadnought - those can singlehandedly melt most planets.

That's a total of 1700m L x 25m H x 450m W. That's not particularly huge, in space; especially for dual-role ships.

Unless you fly around in 5m corvettes and 10m frigates.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Vinyl » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:05 pm

Vinyl wrote:Escort (Pinnace, Corvette, etc) - 50 meters
Frigate - 70 meters
Destroyer - 100 meters
Cruiser - 400 meters
Carrier - 500 meters
Battlecruiser - 600 meters
Dreadnought - 1000 meters
Titan - 2000 meters
Leviathan - 5000 meters
Reaper - 10 kilometers
Harbinger - 20 kilometers
Monolith - 500 kilometers
World Destroyer - 10 megameters
Galaxy Destroyer - 500 gigameters
Super Galaxy Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 yoctometers (7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (7 trigintillion) meters)
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Bomber-8m
Long range patrol ship-25m
Corvette-30m
Frigate-50m
Destroyer-135m
Line-ship-180m
Cruiser-235m
Carrier-400m
Heavy Cruiser-435m
Yyllos class Dreadnought-675m
Jtyyl class Dreadnought-855m
Gyygiis class Dreadnought-1100m
Aiigaiion class Super-Dreadnought(Titan)-3km long, 7km wide.
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Cruiser: F-3, R-3, A-7

Heavy Cruiser: F-5, R-5, A-6

Destroyer: F-6, R-6, A-5

Battlecruiser: F-4, R-4, A-8

Battleship: F-7, R-7, A-4

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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:44 pm

Implying that ships wouldn't just be classified by there purpose.


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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Error » Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:46 am

You guys fly small.
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Corvette: 12-20m
Frigate: 70-120m
Destroyer: 200-320m
Cruiser: 450-650m
Battle/Heavy Cruiser: 600-750m
Battleship: 850-1,500m
Carrier: 1,350-1,500m

Dreadnought: 3,000-4,500m
Mothership: 5,000-7,500m
Superdreadnaut/Supercarrier: 6,500-8,500m

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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:36 am

The great fact that our battleships are practically dreadnoughts in ME standards.
I'd feel pretty bad if FC and ME ever met. The level of misunderstanding.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Error » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:51 am

Feel bad if ME and WH40k ever meet. That could be entertaining.*

And ship size in ME is limited because the exponential increase in elememt zero requirements as size increases. We don't rely on such handwavium drives in FC, so we can go big.

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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by cats » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:12 am

If FC ever does anything more than mention WH40K in a RP like this I'm putting a gun to its head.

Keep in mind it's not even 2200 yet. Human factions are far beyond what they would be, sustaining wars with two of the most advanced races in the galaxy.

And destroyers, used to destroy ships, are usually the same size if not smaller than frigates, which are general-purpose.

It'd go something like this.

Fighter (ship-ship), Bomber (ship-surface), Pinnace (GP)

Destroyer (ship-ship), Frigate (GP)

Battleship (ship-ship), Cruiser (GP), Carrier
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Error » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:16 am

Considering everybody has different classifications and meansing for conventional naval terminology, trying to nail it down to one point is rather not going to work.

And I fully support your decision @40k.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Ivan2006 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:02 pm

Well, even IRL, the international community has never agreed on any straightforward definition of ships.
Heck, the US Navy doesn't even use the term "corvette" at all.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Vinyl » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:10 pm

Bigger ships = more mass = more engines needed = more power needed = more powerful/more generators needed = more crew needed = more logistics needed = uneconomical.

Besides, what the hell are you putting in your ships that they need to be over a fucking kilometer?
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Error » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:12 pm

More equipment, more ammunition, more power, more fighters.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Vinyl » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:16 pm

That's a hell of a lot of equipment and ammo and fighters you've got there. Enough to be an independent army even.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling

Post by Shadowcatbot » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:00 pm

Well considering those ships do have to guard the orbits of entire planets it actually does seem reasonable to basically be a mobile space/air/ground military base.
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