Once More, With Feeling
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Hard scifi is "these gravity generators work by these functions that I have described in enough detail to patent it" rather than "these gravity generators work because science".
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Re: Once More, With Feeling
o7 doesn't make sense
who the hell salutes with their left hand. that's plain wrong
who the hell salutes with their left hand. that's plain wrong
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Re: Once More, With Feeling
you're basically giving the opposite of your intent by saluting with the left though, it's a sign of disrespect
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>implying the saluting guy isn't from a mirror universe where everything is the other way around
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Re: Once More, With Feeling
People who don't have a right hand?notAnAlt wrote:o7 doesn't make sense
who the hell salutes with their left hand. that's plain wrong
Never knew it was a sign of disrespect though, over here it's more regarded as a display of incompetence and *.
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Then use <o. Problem solved.
There is a difference between "realism", "hard sci-fi", and "I can make these do whatever i fucking want because science."
I'm arguing for realism: They're not magic do anything devices, but they aren't super-extra regulated either. I only add the regulation when problems come up.
This is the EXACT reason why the RP is dying. Debates over immaterial story facts that have 'some' inherent value to gaming the system the RP has set up. I'm not arguing over this anymore. I'm out.
There is a difference between "realism", "hard sci-fi", and "I can make these do whatever i fucking want because science."
I'm arguing for realism: They're not magic do anything devices, but they aren't super-extra regulated either. I only add the regulation when problems come up.
This is the EXACT reason why the RP is dying. Debates over immaterial story facts that have 'some' inherent value to gaming the system the RP has set up. I'm not arguing over this anymore. I'm out.
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Re: Once More, With Feeling
In my opinion, the whole point of scifi is that it's fictional science, aka the SCIENCE!! kind of science, not the follow-all-the-rules-of-physics kind of science. At least to some extent.
But I agree with the whole "RP dying because some people wanna play a game, some people wanna write the story and some people wanna cheat the system" thing.
So, if I want to keep doing science and developing an utopia I have to check out the seven kingdoms forum more, then?
But I agree with the whole "RP dying because some people wanna play a game, some people wanna write the story and some people wanna cheat the system" thing.
So, if I want to keep doing science and developing an utopia I have to check out the seven kingdoms forum more, then?
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Probably. It will be separate from SKRP nations thing, but similar (except IN SPACE).
And that's what I mean; I'm not going for "follow all the rules science" but I am trying to go "keep it reasonable and not utterly insane." The laws of physics are more guidelines than actual rules, but they should be a basis for what is and isn't possible.
Example here: Artificial gravity is possible. Using artificial gravity to land a dreadnought on a planet is not very possible unless you put in a LOT of time, money, and effort into it.
And that's what I mean; I'm not going for "follow all the rules science" but I am trying to go "keep it reasonable and not utterly insane." The laws of physics are more guidelines than actual rules, but they should be a basis for what is and isn't possible.
Example here: Artificial gravity is possible. Using artificial gravity to land a dreadnought on a planet is not very possible unless you put in a LOT of time, money, and effort into it.
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But how do you define effort.
I mean, throughout the years that's been my biggest issue with RP.
I mean, throughout the years that's been my biggest issue with RP.
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And if you make that landing dread, that's basically all it's going to be able to do.
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Effort will be defined by writing. Story-writing. As in, not just saying "I'm building this" and saying it's done some months later, but actually writing the story behind it, the specifications. This is part of the blend from SKRP. Actual storywriting.
For example, the making of the ringworld would be a lot of writing, a lot of story behind it. Designing, building, (potential) complications. It would take time too, real time (not imaginary game time). That's what SKRP does.
For example, the making of the ringworld would be a lot of writing, a lot of story behind it. Designing, building, (potential) complications. It would take time too, real time (not imaginary game time). That's what SKRP does.
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I smell a fundamental flaw there Fen. You dont define the RP problem correctly, its true its those who wanna play vs those who wanna write, but it works differently:
OFC its too late to discuss this, I just can stand aside while you blame it all on those dispisable " gamers" who just "want to become OP and ruin the game !"
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Go have a gander at SK's RP. You'll understand.
If you can access it that is, for a community that apparently complains about lack of members they make it rather difficult to actually join.
If you can access it that is, for a community that apparently complains about lack of members they make it rather difficult to actually join.
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Iv, the SKRP is stat-based.
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