Once More, With Feeling

Shadowcatbot · Post by **Shadowcatbot** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:37 pm

"Landing" with a 1.7 km ship.
I think you mean "tactical deployment".

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:44 pm

>placing vessel on surface with the ability to depart again
>implying you wouldn't just fry everyone with the engines

Shadowcatbot · Post by **Shadowcatbot** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:30 pm

Besides the fact that you could blockade cities with 4-16 ships by just parking and turning point defence on.

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:43 pm

Given the range of starship-grade PD, you could blockade a city with two or three.

Vinyl · Post by **Vinyl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:13 pm

That makes your ship even more ridiculous.

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:15 pm

And precisely what is stopping you from building a similar vessel...?

Vinyl · Post by **Vinyl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:25 pm

I- what? You have a 1.7km ship that can LAND. That is... that's insane, Error. You'd need, like, a mass effect drive from like fuckin' Soverign or something to land that *.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:26 pm

I, too, agree that in order to land a thing that size, it would need to be specifically engineered towards that capability, cutting back on other functionality.

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:45 pm

Considering it already hybridized perfectly a battleship and carrier, I don't feel like this is too much of a stretch. And I thought I stated in the past antigravs are a thing. 'Scuse, re-reading thread.

Considering, you know, in this universe we've got a small furry species with pychic powers, a massive genetically-engineered army that apparently was created over the span of about ten years, and a race of giant avians who cross dimensions.

Just my opinions, though.

Vinyl · Post by **Vinyl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:56 pm

An upsized Bengal is not a thing that works in FC.

Ivan2006 · Post by **Ivan2006** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:59 pm

You know what? have landing ability if you want. Just keep in mind that due to there being the ground, you may not be able to use hardlight or plasma shields, as they have to wrap around the ship to function, which is impossible with, you know, the ground being there. Also you'll have a hard time fighting any space tagrets because gravity (and, for energy weapons, atmosphere) is working against you. In the meantime, destroying your ship would be as easy as orbital bombarement.

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:20 pm

^he gets it.

Everything a ship can do has a countermeasure of some kind. Landing? Shields don't work and you can't really hit stuff in orbit. And let's face it, landing a starship doesn't grant the faction using it some astonishing advantage.

(Except maybe the Hexalani. They can just land a single transport and swamp you with a few brigades of troops.)

Also, I'm an idiot - if artificial gravity exists (it does), antigravs do, too. Calculate the gravity of whatever you're landing on and use the a-grav to mimic that pull, in the opposite direction. Blam, instant antigravs.

Vinyl · Post by **Vinyl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:24 pm

If landing is so awful, why did you make it a feature.

Post by **Error** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:26 pm

Because I wanted to. More or less why I do anything here. If landing is so awful, why are you complaining?

Vinyl · Post by **Vinyl** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:31 pm

I'm complaining because Novus, which are apparently the gods of engineering, made an absolute blunder for no reason? And also, if you've acknowledged how awful it is, why are you still on the defensive?

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