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Re: Standard Faction/Race Information Sheet Format

Post by  ҉  » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:47 pm

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catsonmeth wrote:They would have to be barely sentient to not advance at all in a hundred thousand years. Does anyone even know how long a hundred thousand years is? It's a very long time.
Consider that average Strigiforme lifespan is ~450 years. Therefore, 100,000 years is ~50 generations. If the average human lifetime for the majority of contemporary human history is ~60 years, then 100,000 years is roughly equivalent to 3000 years.
You know what was cutting-edge technology three thousand years ago? Pants. That's right. The oldest pair of pants in the world dates to roughly the 980s BCE. That's how far we've come in that time. It's substantially less than 100,000 years, but still a hell of a long time. Even the Amish aren't using tech that's 3000 years old.
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Re: Standard Faction/Race Information Sheet Format

Post by ACH0225 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:15 pm

Adrien Victus wrote:
ACH0225 wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:They would have to be barely sentient to not advance at all in a hundred thousand years. Does anyone even know how long a hundred thousand years is? It's a very long time.
Consider that average Strigiforme lifespan is ~450 years. Therefore, 100,000 years is ~50 generations. If the average human lifetime for the majority of contemporary human history is ~60 years, then 100,000 years is roughly equivalent to 3000 years.
You know what was cutting-edge technology three thousand years ago? Pants. That's right. The oldest pair of pants in the world dates to roughly the 980s BCE. That's how far we've come in that time. It's substantially less than 100,000 years, but still a hell of a long time. Even the Amish aren't using tech that's 3000 years old.
Don't go for the 3,000 years you know then. Go for any group of 3,000 years prior to the Neolithic era. Go for the 3,000 years from Sumer to 0 AD. You immediately jump to the difference between the past 3k and now, but there have been plenty of spans of time when very little happened.
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Re: Standard Faction/Race Information Sheet Format

Post by  ҉  » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:43 pm

ACH0225 wrote: Don't go for the 3,000 years you know then. Go for any group of 3,000 years prior to the Neolithic era. Go for the 3,000 years from Sumer to 0 AD. You immediately jump to the difference between the past 3k and now, but there have been plenty of spans of time when very little happened.
In 3000 BC, Stonehenge had not yet been built. In AD 0, the Roman Empire was conquering the known world. In 9000 BC, sheep were a new and exciting innovation, but by 6000 BC Mesopotamia was flourishing. This will be true for any timespan you pick since the dawn of anything even vaguely like civilization.
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Re: Standard Faction/Race Information Sheet Format

Post by Chairman_Tiel » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:34 am

Basically ACH is trying to pull an Imperium of Man, which *can* make sense given his ridiculous Big Bertha government, but it also means the individual Strigiforme is going to be less than formidable when it comes to the brains department by virtue of the latter. I really think that's unavoidable - you can't say a highly repressive, damn near autocratic society is going to have the headroom for each citizen to be the intelligent if not sometimes belligerent beings you see in other civilizations.
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Re: Standard Faction/Race Information Sheet Format

Post by ACH0225 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:55 am

Chairman_Tiel wrote:Basically ACH is trying to pull an Imperium of Man, which *can* make sense given his ridiculous Big Bertha government, but it also means the individual Strigiforme is going to be less than formidable when it comes to the brains department by virtue of the latter. I really think that's unavoidable - you can't say a highly repressive, damn near autocratic society is going to have the headroom for each citizen to be the intelligent if not sometimes belligerent beings you see in other civilizations.
I think that it would be conceivable for the Strigiforme to persist at average intelligence for 3,000 years. This is coupled by the fact that the Strigiforme did not stay in the same empire for the whole time. There were numerous fractures and insurrections and such, each of which lasted a short amount of time before collapsing. The relative isolation of each planet also would help slow innovation, along with popular Luddite anti tech sentiments and complacent groupthink.
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