Poll, Lore Reset

[҉]

Well, I don't normally post stuff here, but I'm gonna throw some new crap into this discussion, from a more neutral point of view (admittedly one that doesn't know what's going on here).

Aprox. 2.5 billion BCE: Strigiforme metagate opens in the vicinity of Tau Ceti. Exploration/conquest fleets rapidly assess the galaxy and find it more or less devoid of life. Bacteria-analogue fertilizer is seeded across several million easily habitable worlds in preparation for long-term colonization efforts, but rapidly escalating warfare elsewhere in the Empire results in the recall of all units to Cuuyth and the colonization of this galactic cluster is put on hold indefinitely.

Aprox. 2.5 billion BCE - March 9, 2387: Bacteria-analogue fertilizer rapidly spreads across otherwise lifeless worlds. Evolution and diversification of life. Empires eventually become spacefaring and spread outwards. Major interspecies warfare.

March 9, 2387: Strigiforme Empire colonization projects are begun again. Metagate reopens; Strigiforme warships rapidly conquer most of the galaxy. Conquered species are enslaved and used as labor, mostly for mining raw materials but also for shipbuilding and more advanced construction to fuel Strigiforme's continued warfare elsewhere in the universe.

December 29, 2451: Coordinated slave uprising begins with the seizure of Strigiforme shipyards at Rigel, VY Canis Majoris, Epsilon Virginis, Cor Caroli, Rho Persei, and others. The rebellion lasts less than a month before being put down by the Strigiforme 934th Fleet, but the metagate is destroyed, effectively severing contact with the Strigiforme Empire proper. All Strigiforme units in the galaxy are stranded.

2452-2509: Emboldened militias fight a guerrilla war against the remaining Strigiforme Navy. Strigiforme losses are light compared to the less-advanced rebels, but without the ability to easily manufacture new warships their forces are gradually whittled down until, on June 12, 2509, they are forced to sign the Mu Cephei Accords, relinquishing control of all but a handful of systems and pledging the gradual uplifting of the former slaves to Strigiforme's technological level. Less than a week later the alliance of formerly enslaved species fragments as each member attempts to reclaim the empires they held before the Strigiforme conquest.

You guys take it from there.

[Chairman_Tiel]

In our case they are one and the same, simply because the only other humans are NeoRome whom Ill let to decide how to join all that stuff on their own.

Excuse you, there are other human factions. Like the Zuguthians, Novans, and Hexalani.
And also, terran can mean anything from Earth, not just humans, seeing as it most likely came out of the term Terra, meaning Earth.

Not according to Iv. In his mind you're all knockoffs, despite the fact he's actually late to the ballgame.

Anyway, that's part of the point of this thread. To establish a timeline that isn't fueled by 'ME FIRST!' that everyone can agree on.

I like Jedi's idea.

[Error]

Have to agree with Jedi's story, makes the most sense.

Though ACH, while Strigiforme are paranoid and very capable, being hit by a deluge of hit-and-run attacks and what would effectively be amped-up terrorist tactics would wear their forces down. Just one rebels has to get that bomb into a cruiser to put it in a dock for repairs, where the rebels can zerg it and take it.

So while the Strigiforme gave more than they got, the fact that everybody pulled an ME3 on them was just a tad too much.

[Tell]

The reason I never visit here is because its really confusing. I'm now going to try and make an entrance with my long forgotten corporation of TELLrim. So how does one "Roleplay"?

[҉]

The reason I never visit here is because its really confusing. I'm now going to try and make an entrance with my long forgotten corporation of TELLrim. So how does one "Roleplay"?

Well, if my story catches on, there's room for everybody in the 'Empire that Strigiforme basically destroyed but that reformed after the war' category.

Also, I think the people Strigiforme has spent billions of years fighting way off in some other galaxy are LJSI. It might not be, though.

[Iv121]

In our case they are one and the same, simply because the only other humans are NeoRome whom Ill let to decide how to join all that stuff on their own.

Excuse you, there are other human factions. Like the Zuguthians, Novans, and Hexalani.
And also, terran can mean anything from Earth, not just humans, seeing as it most likely came out of the term Terra, meaning Earth.

Not according to Iv. In his mind you're all knockoffs, despite the fact he's actually late to the ballgame.

Anyway, that's part of the point of this thread. To establish a timeline that isn't fueled by 'ME FIRST!' that everyone can agree on.

I like Jedi's idea.

You got me fully wrong. As you see I didn’t even force myself upon NeoRome, each and every terrean faction of whatever weird origin it is is entitled to its own back-story, I wont force my back-story upon you, I wont write it for you either, you can take mine if you want or make your own. So next time that you blame me being forceful Tiel think that perhaps that forceful guy was a little more thoughtful than you and ironically made sure that that forceful guy is not forcing his lore upon others. I think you owe me an apology.

As for ACH, humanity has a fleet since the Sirius rebellion where it had to face Human rebels and as a result required proper battleships. The sirius rebels also had a fleet as apparently in order to capture stuff by force you need force.

Crashing a slave ship onto a planet will never sparkle a civilization of that kind we see in RPs, especially not with so many factions.

Believe me ACH if you want something it can be done, especially from inside. By making humans your slaves you let them crawl inside you, that is why they can strike you where it hurts, there is a reason why nobody has ever won a guerrilla war, no matter how strong you are or how technologically advanced you are, a bullet at point blank range equalizes all living beings. To crawl inside a small corvette, cut off the comm cables, enter the bridge and kill those inside it, to dock a transport and transfer the shield onto it, to activate a bomb and blow this corvette up. The owl won't even know who did it, or that the shield is missing, see you need just one shield prototype to manufacture more, you don’t need to know how it works you just need to reverse engineer it, you have no idea how many things the Chinese have reverse engineered in our world,, they usually buy something only once to study it and then to produce themselves, again if you really want something and your survival depends on it its possible.

Again what I don’t like in LJS's version is that it detaches everything from reality.

[Chairman_Tiel]

You got me fully wrong. As you see I didn’t even force myself upon NeoRome, each and every terrean faction of whatever weird origin it is is entitled to its own back-story, I wont force my back-story upon you, I wont write it for you either, you can take mine if you want or make your own.

You didn't 'force yourself' on NeoRome because Fenway capitulated to the concept fairly easily. That you conveniently forget anyone who hasn't acknowledged you as their progenitor is very telling; actions speak louder than words. In claiming Earth and unilaterally writing its history you basically ensure no faction hailing from it (eg any human one) can exist without integrating yours somewhere. Funny how that works.

[ACH0225]

I'd be fine with LJS version if it had the spacefaring Strigiforme empire come in a few thousand years earlier. Due to the length of Strigiforme lives, all this is happening from a 'really long while ago' and then 'one lifetime'. If the Strigiforme had been there for a few thousand years, sure, but just 100 or so? Not sure about that. Also, almost all the shipyards are automated.

Iv- I want you to go and try to steal jet fighter from the Israeli Military, and then fly it and land it with absolutely no training. After that, I'd like you to get the Israeli military to load the plane with full combat gear. Please don't really do any of that, but that is in essence what you are saying they are doing, except that the plane is full of soldiers with guns, and flying it is similar to flying a plane that uses stick shift and has hundreds of buttons in a language you can't read, all while flying through a tornado full of other, better fighters that want to kill you. This is what you are asking.

Here's my timeline, it can be integrated with others
-35,000 BC- Strigiforme return to Milky Way ad begin colonization

-29,000 BC- A ship of slaves manages to revolt and one accidentally hits a button in the command room causing all life boats to be fired at the nearest planet. Due to poor management, the ship was overfilled and the lifeboats had to store the humans. Somewhere around 5,000 humans escaped.

-25,000 BC- The escaped humans have reached a population of 1 million on their world, a habitable world orbiting a yellow star. The Strigiforme are still colonizing worlds, however this one has been labeled undesirable due to lack of useful Yttrium sources and poor positioning.

-700 AD- The Strigiforme are at the height of their power, and will soon begin a slight decline due to imperial overstretch and other issues.

-2252- Humanity has colonized a neighboring world using the rudimentary FTL technology found in the survival pods.

-2270- Humanity contacts the Strigiforme. Due to increased viability of machines, there are very few humans in the Strigiforme empire anymore.

Continue on from there.

[Iv121]

Absolutely no training ? As I said although most ppl in Israel are not pilots there is a selected few that will be assigned to take a jet and fly it around, not only this but as you saw I took your shields in Terran transports so here goes that. Not only this but I doubt the owl marines will expect humans to even be on board their ship. Just to let you know most of the time ppl on board a military ship are walking unarmed simply because there is not supposed to be anyone threatening you on board. You gonna argue that stealing stuff from you in that situation will be hard ? when what they look for is a rudimentary piece of tech spread all across the empire, not some secret kind of super weapon or something .

Any other possible plot hole you want me to cover ? bring as many as you want Ill show you how it all fits in the puzzle.

I claimed Earth Tiel because nobody else did, how you write from that point on is up to you, hell physically I cant even force you to accept that I claimed Earth, both factions can claim Earth I can't do fking shit about it, nor can the other faction.

Also about forgetting I must admit I do have a hard time to count all Terran factions, that is why I will now give this exercise - Now, without going to the RP pages, name me all Terran factions that participate in the RPs, I dare you try, you will fail every time, there are just too many of them, as well as factions that are god know what, Terrans ? Ponies ? Owls ? Hell knows , robots even from time to time for the same freaking faction. You cant blame me for not being able to follow all of that. The reason I mainly speak of the UTN and NeoRome is simply because both factions are memorable , show me one person who doesn't know what they are, if all factions were consistent with their lore and tried to stand out Im sure they will be remembered just as well, we don't have too many factions here after all.

Either way you can't blame it all on me and tell that Im forceful and want all other factions to go to hell, its simply impossible to address all of them, possible if you sit with a cheat sheet by your hand all the time, but isn’t it the same as not addressing them at all ? You will forget them the second you read them from the list. Now I hope I satisfied all your demands Tiel, I know you hate me and my faction and my lore and my country and all the other things that ever touched me , but honestly if nobody else wants all of this why even bother ? Want it ? Fine Ill give you Earth, but you take care of it, if you don't I claim it back. By taking care I mean "Hey I took earth from Iv now lets fry it" doesn't count.



Also as for LJS I have a lil Q for you - what happened to the Humans on Earth ? You just told there is some random butt colony created from some owl refugees but no word about the billions of ppl inhabiting the blue planet. IF you planned to destroy Earth in any way just as I said above it won't do for me.

[Chairman_Tiel]

Now I hope I satisfied all your demands Tiel, I know you hate me and my faction and my lore and my country and all the other things that ever touched me , but honestly if nobody else wants all of this why even bother ?

[Prototype]

Simple solution, everyone is robot. The end.

[ACH0225]

Iv, you're completely missing the big point here.

Humans don't have a planet

This is a universe without earth. Up until(in my timeline) when humanity crashes onto that planet, THERE ARE NO HUMAN FACTIONS.

I reiterate, because saying it in nearly every post is not enough.

HUMANITY IS A MANUAL LABOUR SLAVE RACE! THEY HAVE NO SHIPS, FACTIONS, OR PLANETS!

They are not some proxy government, client state, or free group. They are the literal property of the Strigiforme. Any education they get is given by the Strigiforme. They have no special forces. This is prior to any human group or faction.

The Strigiforme brought humanity into this universe. Humans are imported, not native. There is no Earth. I'm trying to give you one with my timeline, but idk.

[Iv121]

I dunno ACH but from a human perspective that sounds quite *, don't tell me you're an owl now and see it in owl perspective cosue then Ill tell you cut the crap.

Though if you really want to destroy humanity on Earth fine, Ill go with it but in exchange you are to offer something of the same significance, that’s how it goes, if no I see no reason letting some enlarged species clearly native to Earth to rule over the galaxy, doesn't sound too convincing actually.

[ACH0225]

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I didn't understand any of that. I'm stating the facts of the timeline. It's well accepted that humanity isn't native to this universe. It isn't that Earth is destroyed, it's that there never was an Earth.

[Error]

Iv. ACH. My understanding of the events is as follows:

Humanity landed on Earth after the accidental destruction / crash of a slave transport, and grew from there while the Strigiforme started declining, growing lax.

Earth in the Sol system is where the free human nations came from, originally the Terran Union, until that splintered into a bunch of groups.

The Strigiforme got blindsided by this group of free humans - they thouht they had all humans under their rule. The rebels blew apart the Yttrium gate, and cut off a relatively small force in this galaxy, which was whittled down through guerilla warfare and the like.

ACH, Earth exists, it's just not the birthplace of humanity.

Iv, the Strigiforme used humans as slave labour until a bunch "escaped" and went from there.

The rebellions occurred (for the sake of fairness), around 2270, and the rebels trained slaves as soldiers and the like, giving them a fighting force.

AFAIK the current year for the RP is 2752, so the rebellions happened 500ish years previous. Plenty of time for a nation to fracture and others to show up.