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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:46 pm

Re: NPCs

Iv121 wrote:Well you suggest to interact with it which is problematic again couse city is not your property in my model.


Interaction =/= property. Let me clarify - trading with a city does not make it your own anymore than trading with a planet in Freelancer makes it your territory. Everyone has something to gain, the NPCs progress faster than normal, and the player(s) get weapons and recruits. Players may elect to fortify and defend a city to retain the convenience it offers, and perhaps later on in Phase 3 rent land from it on which to build or even form alliances with them, but I don't think a city should ever be 'owned' by an individual player.
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:13 pm

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Yes but you EFFECT it. Remember that this city will also have dozens of other players interacting with it and so with all of the other cities, making them perfectly identical and excluding the need in this trade
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:29 pm

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In my opinion, all this would require far too much effort for too little reward to Futurecraft. If we can a hold of the Millenare (is that how you spell it?) code, then we can implement this. However, this will be later in the mod, NPCs this complicated is not required at this time.
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:32 pm

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I concede the point. But what will NPC villages be like until something like tech tree'd towns and cities can be made?
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:33 pm

Re: NPCs

normal npc villages with possibel adeptions
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:07 pm

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Tiel wrote:I concede the point. But what will NPC villages be like until something like tech tree'd towns and cities can be made?


Still keep the same villager behavior (however, trading different things for a currency rather than emeralds), but alter village generation with more and larger buildings.
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:10 pm

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Currency like Millenaire that the entire galaxy unanimously uses? Also, where do NPCs on ships come from? Do you pay individual villagers this mysterious currency in order to enlist them?
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Post Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:19 pm

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NPCs on ships should be generated on ships when they're built. The size of the ship determines how many NPCs there are. They wander the ship, shooting anything that isn't friendly, and occasionally pressing buttons.
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:43 am

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I still don't see tiny villages fitting the mod of massive space exploration, it breaks the immersion and feel of the game. You surely can't use those for your ship, they will do what ? They barely know how to use a sword. Yes code-wise it's not a limit but lore wise it break the immersion and feel again.
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:57 am

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Iv121 wrote:I still don't see tiny villages fitting the mod of massive space exploration, it breaks the immersion and feel of the game. You surely can't use those for your ship, they will do what ? They barely know how to use a sword.


We could always alter the village genoration to make it look like a small high tech colony, kinda like moon villages in galacticraft. In any case, even in the far future; there will always be small technophobic cults :D
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:10 am

Re: NPCs

Yea but people will want to see huge cities not small villages (something they better see from a window of a spaceport couse making a huge real city is really really hard ant not worth it)
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:18 am

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Iv121 wrote:Yea but people will want to see huge cities not small villages (something they better see from a window of a spaceport couse making a huge real city is really really hard ant not worth it)


We could make 3 types of village genoration: Small high-tech colonys, Medium sized colony/city things and large orbital npc spaceports. That way the player only discovers the larger citys when he develops some degree of techno stuff. Although it would be harder to code, it would solve the problem of futurecraft npc's turning into a spacebound version of tale of kingdoms.
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:49 am

Re: NPCs

Forget the generating code, it's impossible to make that big city feel real and accessible. It can only be made as a deco out of the space port window, again another argument for limiting ground stuff. I don't think we will have enough builders to actually make a city that big, and we also need to make them at least a bit unique and not clones of each other. That is too much of a work to be done.
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:19 am

Re: NPCs

It probably is, but just a thought, what if we take the buildings from FV on Avengers server, and randomise thier location in an npc city, that could work :) Again i have no idea if that is possible though.
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:41 am

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That will only work for a medium sized town. If you plan to make a real city you risk finding yourself making GTA VI just with accessible interiors. The buildings in a futuristic city are COLLOSAL. Giant skyscrapers touching the sky. It is a stunning scenery from the windows of the star dock again but really hard to make real and accessible as you would expect from an NPC "village"
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